tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post8991553142868281088..comments2024-03-29T13:37:11.174+00:00Comments on TPQ: The ‘Ethics’ Of The Catholic Bishops? Freud Had A Name For That: Reaction FormationAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-61397131095904270932018-11-14T18:44:30.274+00:002018-11-14T18:44:30.274+00:00Frankie - you don't know what you were missing...Frankie - you don't know what you were missing by not being in the blocks. I am so glad I was not out enjoying life!!!!<br />AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-25892443402930567852018-11-14T17:57:16.084+00:002018-11-14T17:57:16.084+00:00Daithi
off topic but Salisbury Plain brings back...Daithi<br /><br /><b> off topic but Salisbury Plain brings back old memories, grew up just down the road from the stones. They slightly ruined the ambience building a pub in the middle of the arrangement ,</b><br /><br />Salisbury Plains..Forget about the pub. Pack of beer, spliff, music and look at the stars.<br /><br />Anthony<br /><br /> <b> the nights spent in a cell dreaming about that statefrankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-81005651832970478152018-11-13T19:22:57.247+00:002018-11-13T19:22:57.247+00:00AM/Frankie, off topic but Salisbury Plain brings b...AM/Frankie, off topic but Salisbury Plain brings back old memories, grew up just down the road from the stones. They slightly ruined the ambience building a pub in the middle of the arrangement , but yeah it’s eerie.DaithiDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03154264514142897745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-3289169297696951902018-11-13T17:48:02.808+00:002018-11-13T17:48:02.808+00:00Barry Gilheany: This is a very simple issue: Eithe...Barry Gilheany: This is a very simple issue: Either the very extreme media character assassination of those who credibly claim to be victims of abuse by establishment big-wigs such as Heath and Brittan, is scandalous or it isn't. If it is scandalous, why not say so? Why not say, yes you have a point about the media's glaring double standards, but that doesn't detract from the crimes Northsiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770330740967862808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-21497157632860648672018-11-13T12:32:36.379+00:002018-11-13T12:32:36.379+00:00Peter,
Children being raped don't care what s...Peter,<br /><br /><b>Children being raped don't care what shade of god bothering bastard is abusing them. What neither you nor "Northsider" will accept is that the RC church had unique access and a unique place and authority in homes all around the world and esp in Ireland.Or that the RC church asserts unique moral authority in this world.</b><br /><br />What about school teachers, frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-33462200818626665632018-11-13T11:53:42.766+00:002018-11-13T11:53:42.766+00:00Frankie - you are bonkers and after reading that I...Frankie - you are bonkers and after reading that I am determined to go bonkers too! Beer, spliffs, Salisbury Plain and some music - the nights spent in a cell dreaming about that state of serenity. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-19991860479908780462018-11-13T11:24:02.752+00:002018-11-13T11:24:02.752+00:00Barry,
institutions merely concerned with protec...Barry,<br /><br /> <b>institutions merely concerned with protecting their reputation.</b><br /><br />Exactly what John Podesta and Hillary Clinton have done. Why can't the FBI or Mi5 investigate properly the links being <a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/who-is-jeffrey-epstein-a-study-of-the-man-linked-to-worlds-of-celebrity-politics-and-royalty-9954397.html" rel="frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-60501687489500565032018-11-12T22:02:28.661+00:002018-11-12T22:02:28.661+00:00Frankie
My 'once a Catholic' is a comment...Frankie<br /><br />My 'once a Catholic' is a comment of how difficult it is to free oneself from Catholic guilt and psychological conditioning even after renouncing intellectually Church doctrines.Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-52692369548444625242018-11-12T21:56:51.460+00:002018-11-12T21:56:51.460+00:00Northsider
You have made completely unsubstantiat...Northsider<br /><br />You have made completely unsubstantiated assumptions that I and Peter do not care about the victims of child abuse at the hands of British Establishment figures and institutions simply because I agreed with the author of this article. All sex abuse involves the abuse of power over the vulnerable and defenceless. The Catholic Church in Ireland was a particularly egregious Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-89700671385520370772018-11-12T21:00:47.948+00:002018-11-12T21:00:47.948+00:00Northsider
I haven't been called "matey&...Northsider<br /><br />I haven't been called "matey" in a long time. Made me chuckle!Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027470398152153427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-39898170596065569442018-11-12T20:59:53.461+00:002018-11-12T20:59:53.461+00:00Frankie
Children being raped don't care what s...Frankie<br />Children being raped don't care what shade of god bothering bastard is abusing them. What neither you nor "Northsider" will accept is that the RC church had unique access and a unique place and authority in homes all around the world and esp in Ireland. Or that the RC church asserts unique moral authority in this world.<br /><br />"Most if not all religious Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027470398152153427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-40760072781536877422018-11-12T18:54:13.280+00:002018-11-12T18:54:13.280+00:00Peter,
What a pathetic attempt at defending the i...Peter,<br /><br /><b>What a pathetic attempt at defending the indefensible. Catholic priests had unique access and reverence from ordinary catholic families all over this island. Many mothers would have believed their priest more than their own sons. This level of treachery is profound.</b><br /><br />Very poor dig. It is just not the Catholic Church that has covered up for sex abuse. Most if frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-23069863882486211252018-11-12T12:25:35.403+00:002018-11-12T12:25:35.403+00:00Barry Gilheany: As I noted already to "Peter&...Barry Gilheany: As I noted already to "Peter" - neither of you have made the slightest effort to address my central point. You both also exhibit a quite extraordinary level of charity, not to say loyalty, towards the British establishment, and towards the media that cover up for them. If these media are prepared to cover up the crimes of very senior figures in that establishment - when Northsiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770330740967862808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-82283359161974652082018-11-12T12:09:15.260+00:002018-11-12T12:09:15.260+00:00Peter: I was wondering when you would resort to th...Peter: I was wondering when you would resort to the unutterably feeble "defending the indefensible" canard - the last refuge of those who seek to trump reason with shrill emotionalism. If anyone's attempting to defend the indefensible it's you matey, in you hysterical attempts to defend the British establishment. I notice that neither you nor Barry Gilheany make any atttempt Northsiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770330740967862808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-5105723491819252282018-11-11T21:31:44.578+00:002018-11-11T21:31:44.578+00:00Barry,
For someone who like to go on to a public f...Barry,<br />For someone who like to go on to a public forum and talk about moral intellect because they a have PHD...Question has to be asked is...<br /><br />Why to you leave yourself open to some much flack? <br /><br /><b>The groundswell of proven allegations against Catholic Church worldwide has come from perhaps tens of thousands of abuse survivors born into the Church and who, in addition frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-53248340092378507232018-11-11T19:49:53.533+00:002018-11-11T19:49:53.533+00:00Northsider
What a pathetic attempt at defending th...Northsider<br />What a pathetic attempt at defending the indefensible. Catholic priests had unique access and reverence from ordinary catholic families all over this island. Many mothers would have believed their priest more than their own sons. This level of treachery is profound.<br />Secondly, the pope says that he is the infallible vicar of christ, god's representative on earth, the Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027470398152153427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-58654862749837536632018-11-11T16:04:28.257+00:002018-11-11T16:04:28.257+00:00Northsider
The groundswell of proven allegations ...Northsider<br /><br />The groundswell of proven allegations against Catholic Church worldwide has come from perhaps tens of thousands of abuse survivors born into the Church and who, in addition to their horrific experiences, have had the deeply internalised psychological conditioning familiar to everyone born a Catholic. Once a Catholic ...<br /><br />Barry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-44881042138896252572018-11-11T13:25:19.132+00:002018-11-11T13:25:19.132+00:00Peter: ***...the British establishment doesn't...Peter: ***...the British establishment doesn't have a unique place at the centre of private family life nor claim divine command.***<br /><br /><br />Two distinctly odd assertions. The British establishment claims the right to spy on all its citizens (and indeed the citizens of other sovereign states such as the Republic of Ireland) - through CCTV, snooping on private personal communications Northsiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770330740967862808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-79041776523672691262018-11-11T13:12:22.445+00:002018-11-11T13:12:22.445+00:00Barry Gilheany: ***No need for a score card***
...Barry Gilheany: ***No need for a score card*** <br /><br /><br />Really? Why not? Do the victims of sexual crimes by members of the British establishmenet not merit consideration? Is it just and right that the same media that endlessly dwell on the crimes and alleged crimes of Catholic clergy should launch coordinated campaigns of character assassination against those who make credible claims of Northsiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770330740967862808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-58984518463994717312018-11-10T19:58:02.346+00:002018-11-10T19:58:02.346+00:00Northsider
All child abuse and cover ups are pure ...Northsider<br />All child abuse and cover ups are pure evil, however the British Establishment doesn't have a unique place at the centre of private family life nor claim divine command.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027470398152153427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-22872676260600644352018-11-10T16:23:23.998+00:002018-11-10T16:23:23.998+00:00Northsider
Sex abuse perpetrated by Catholic Chur...Northsider<br /><br />Sex abuse perpetrated by Catholic Church clergy and by agents of the British establishment and the subsequent cover ups are no different. Powerful institutions merely concerned with protecting their reputation.<br /><br />No need for a score card or ledger book of respective evilsBarry Gilheanyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14220262677398695734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-60163080218415287542018-11-10T12:01:42.803+00:002018-11-10T12:01:42.803+00:00Wolfe Tone: Great points. Also I noticed that duri...Wolfe Tone: Great points. Also I noticed that during the recent coverage of the wedding of Prince Andrew's daughter, the media went out of their way to extol the noble magnanimity of the Royal Family in allowing Sarah Ferguson to take part in her own daughter's wedding - the line being that given all the "embarrassment" the flame-haired lass has caused the royals, this was an Northsiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770330740967862808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-81200970520915900602018-11-09T20:56:16.092+00:002018-11-09T20:56:16.092+00:00Northsider, only a 'conspiracy theorist' w...Northsider, only a 'conspiracy theorist' would claim prince big ears knew anything about Savile or indeed bishop ball. Never mind that big ears gave Ball a house to dwell in when he had to go under the radar due to the abuse accusations........the house btw, rent free, was on big ears estate. Never mind that the spooks job is to screen and background check extensively anyone who is to be Wolfe tonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240967708414139476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-76422671209633539682018-11-09T17:59:53.690+00:002018-11-09T17:59:53.690+00:00Some day I'd like to see an analysis of the ga...Some day I'd like to see an analysis of the gaping disparity betwween media reactions to allegations of child abuse in the Catholic Church and allegations of abuse made against British establishment big-wigs. I'm thinking specifically here of the way the media viciously tore into the British police for daring to investigate allegations of abuse made against the likes of former British PM Northsiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03770330740967862808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-73203945398156738152018-11-08T16:08:12.798+00:002018-11-08T16:08:12.798+00:00I have long admired the work of Valerie and was pl...I have long admired the work of Valerie and was pleased that she gave her approval to her work featuring here. I think it is very worthwhile carrying. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.com