Comments on The Pensive Quill: An Open Appeal to All Republicans

II dont think my comments went through so I,ll try...

2010-02-07T20:44:03.913Z

II dont think my comments went through so I,ll try again.The two points I have to make is that Adams didnt cover up this on his own his trusted lieutenants are every bit as guilty for enforcing the no speak policy secondly witout doubt the British targeted these abusers and recruited them as agents and to my thinking they had to use their own agents within the Republican movement to help in the

Its takes some believing that a young girl from a ...

2010-02-01T14:34:18.914Z

Its takes some believing that a young girl from a republican background has had to take her extremely harrowing case onto websites and newspapers in the hope of getting justice. When we look at what is happening in Hillsborough and Stormont it’s beyond comprehension that they the great republicans are trying so hard to appease Unionism and this poor girl whose grandfather was a founder of the

Marty, I would be sorely tempted to behave as you ...

2010-01-31T17:26:16.078Z

Marty, I would be sorely tempted to behave as you with either Hitler or the paedophile you hypothesise about. I might even do it with you. But that would not make it the right course of action for how a society should function. It is like the ticking bomb excuse sometimes used to justify an argument for torture. If you recall that brutal thug-pervert in Belgium, Marx Dutroux, it is easy to make

a p.s Anthony if for talk sake you were in Berlin ...

2010-01-31T17:07:47.880Z

a p.s Anthony if for talk sake you were in Berlin pre 1939 and you knew in advance what Hitler was about to do and you had the power to stop him.ie whack him. would you,or would his human rights stop you

Anthony powerfully put (as usual)I,ll use the excu...

2010-01-31T17:00:15.016Z

Anthony powerfully put (as usual)I,ll use the excuse ,true that I,m on my way out, but what I disagree with you is that your arguement is a human rights based point and that may be fair enough but it comes from the predators corneri.e, they have the right to inflict untold misery not only to their victims but also to any family and friends left behind, we accept all people have equal rights on

Marty, 'why do we have to wait until these s...

2010-01-31T16:35:09.026Z

Marty,

'why do we have to wait until these scum touch our kids before we act?'

it is because people have rights, not just the people we like or approve. They are called human rights not rights for those we deem human. We could choose not to wait and intern them but we choose not to because we try to promote a rights driven politics.

In a rights driven

Hi pippakin Anthony said any apology on his blog m...

2010-01-31T16:25:25.095Z

Hi pippakin Anthony said any apology on his blog must be accompanied with a large brown envelope stuffed with either large denominations of euro or sterling notes,northern bank notes not accepted,slan.

Sorry! its Sunday Im half asleep! My previous rep...

2010-01-31T14:43:05.231Z

Sorry! its Sunday Im half asleep!

My previous reply re Brady & Hindley should have been addressed to Mick Hall.

Sorry!!!

"They came after the Jews and I was not a Jew...

2010-01-31T14:38:50.844Z

"They came after the Jews and I was not a Jew, so I did not protest. They came after the Trade Unionists, and I was not a Trade Unionist, so I did not protest. They came after the Roman Catholics, and I was not a Roman Catholic, so I did not protest. Then they came after me, and there was no one left to protest."

Anyway this is Supday.the day before Moanday so in...

2010-01-31T13:44:23.678Z

Anyway this is Supday.the day before Moanday so in a while I.m heading down to the local watering hole where before the strike of midnight myself and a few others will have put all the worlds wrongs to right killed Elizabeth Taylor and made love to Dinosaurs,reminds me once we were pulled by a wee scots brit who said "gis yer name" we replied "fuck off if we gave you our names

Its hard to argue with Micks and Anthony,s points ...

2010-01-31T13:15:14.123Z

Its hard to argue with Micks and Anthony,s points and I,m certainly not a member of the hang em high brigade, mind you in Tony BLIAIR,S case I,d be happy to allow him to join Saddam,but when peacefull people like pippakin clench the fist doesnt that say something where society is being dragged down to,we have been failed time and time again by those who whish to lead us remember world war one was

It has taken a long time for republicans to be cri...

2010-01-31T12:57:53.888Z

It has taken a long time for republicans to be critical of the leadership of the movement, and this in turned gave us the disastrous leadership of Adams/McGuiness. Had any of us the courage way back when, perhaps we wouldn't be in the mess we are in; perhaps some of the Hunger strikers would still be alive and perhaps the Blankent men and women would not have had to endure any more torture.

Marty Brady was not a bank robber who panicked an...

2010-01-31T12:47:35.185Z

Marty

Brady was not a bank robber who panicked and fired. He was not an abused lover. He was a sadistic paedophile, and he confessed.

I suspect I may be younger than you, though not by much! I remember the trial. I remember the tape was played in court. The papers of course were full of it.

I could only read part of them. It was too much for me. I know a beautiful

its a fair point Anthony,but and the BUT is why do...

2010-01-31T12:32:00.513Z

its a fair point Anthony,but and the BUT is why do we have to wait untill these scum touch our kids before we act. now that and Im sure someone will correct me the story of the man watching the jews being carted away by the nazi,s and it had nothing to do with him as he was,nt a jew,and then all the other ethnic groups untill he was the last and now they were coming for him,is that the way we

Pippakin, I don't think I would blink a lot my...

2010-01-31T12:30:42.804Z

Pippakin, I don't think I would blink a lot myself. Didn't blink at all when it happened to Chemical Ali. It is a more general position I am trying to defend. I am opposed to the use of capital punishment not that I like those spared the rope. But ethical systems cannot be built on likes and dislikes. And if I make an exception - as we are invariably tempted to - I am not then opposed to

pipakin Do you really wish to live in a society i...

2010-01-31T12:23:56.130Z

pipakin

Do you really wish to live in a society in which the State has the legal power to take the lives of its citizens (perhaps you do?)

When ever there is a dreadful crime of the type
Brady committed, some people always call for the rope. If we were to use your justification for introducing it, we would be allowing a small minority of criminals to dictate how the

AM Thanks, but I cannot agree re Brady, that evil ...

2010-01-31T12:10:04.290Z

AM
Thanks, but I cannot agree re Brady, that evil little pervert tortured children for days. He taped the cries of the victim! and when he got bored he killed and found another.

One poor boy has still not been found. Ordinarily I do not believe in hanging, but for him and his co killer Myra Hindley I would see them both dead without a blink.

Pippakin, being a republican is not a criterion of...

2010-01-31T11:45:57.464Z

Pippakin, being a republican is not a criterion of posting on this site! I know the feeling; that is why I used the term wrestle. If he killed my child I would want him strung up; if he was my child I would want him spared. He is neither and my judgement can therefore be more balanced.

Been reading the comments here, didnt want to inte...

2010-01-31T11:30:49.119Z

Been reading the comments here, didnt want to interfere in something clearly republican when I am nationalist. BUT when it comes to the like of Ian Brady. Tried, found guilty, confessed! Just hand me the rope, and I will spare him further abuse and everyone else the expense!

Marty, people have human rights by virtue of being...

2010-01-31T11:17:04.143Z

Marty, people have human rights by virtue of being human. When the process of categorising people as less than human begins the ethical barriers to all manner of crime is dissolved. The rape victim becomes fair game because 'she asked for it' or she came from the wrong side of the tracks, or belonged to an Iraqi family subject to US occupation, or annoyed religious fanatics in Iran, or

thats exactly it Anthony,what type of society do w...

2010-01-31T10:52:57.659Z

thats exactly it Anthony,what type of society do we want/live in, one in which the states secret policemen trawl to catch and exploit all kinds of scum to do the states dirty work and where the rights of children and oaps are disregarded in the interest of political correctness,Utopia doesnt exist I wish it did but the harsh reality is mo cara that a lot of scum invest all sections of our

Marty it still does nothing to adress the issue of...

2010-01-31T08:43:39.662Z

Marty it still does nothing to adress the issue of the type of society we live in. You refer to crime as the problem but no mention of the type of crime that punishment often itself is.

ok Anthony I take your point leave the hands and...

2010-01-30T21:28:42.627Z

ok Anthony I take your point leave the hands and of with the head no brain no pain,I believe this issue is a black/white crime. and because those who have to endure this worst of all crimes suffer so much then the penalty should fit the bill,every one of these creeps play the pity me card wait till the Laim boy gets his story going. I to remember a few years back while a shinner we had

Marty, witty as always with the Connolly quote. Th...

2010-01-30T20:06:46.103Z

Marty, witty as always with the Connolly quote. Thought it great.

However, I think it is unfair on Sean Mor. Agree with him or not he tries to see the complexity of a situation and engage with all its shades rather than the simple easy to handle black or white.

On the question of the PSNI, of all the options available to society reporting the matter to them is, as

Fair enough Sean but when the subject of child abu...

2010-01-30T14:38:31.774Z

Fair enough Sean but when the subject of child abuse and support and justice comes up,I tend to think back to Kincora,and from what I can remember of that whole rotten episode,those kids did,nt get the support or justice they deserved, the disgraceful actions of those Catholic bishops and yes some of those in the repulican movement who would say "move on we wont dwell in the past" I