tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post7465136416394514506..comments2024-03-29T13:37:11.174+00:00Comments on TPQ: Spotlight Should Be On C3AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-17696302475590787522016-10-07T22:42:27.614+01:002016-10-07T22:42:27.614+01:00long serving prisoners are as susceptible to tempt...long serving prisoners are as susceptible to temptation as the next person. Avoid making a virtue of necessity. I'll put it to you like this: a devout Catholic abandons all the key tenets of his religion and despite being a nominal Catholic no longer believes in god. Do you really think he is going to worry about not blessing himself going past the chapel? Why would he hold onto that when he Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-84359324742872893652016-10-07T11:33:42.213+01:002016-10-07T11:33:42.213+01:00Steve,
long serving prisoners are as susceptible ...Steve,<br /><br />long serving prisoners are as susceptible to temptation as the next person. Avoid making a virtue of necessity. I'll put it to you like this: a devout Catholic abandons all the key tenets of his religion and despite being a nominal Catholic no longer believes in god. Do you really think he is going to worry about not blessing himself going past the chapel? Why would he hold AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-83876914801053465872016-10-07T09:44:37.931+01:002016-10-07T09:44:37.931+01:00Anthony,
Fair enough, though long serving prisone...Anthony,<br /><br />Fair enough, though long serving prisoners would still make me surprised.<br /><br />Little in life is set in stone. While the Shinners have entered a form of Government that they once denounced, the Unionists are also sitting with them. Sinn Fein have evolved, adapted to the times and yes moved away from their traditional position but let's be honest, the war was fucked. Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-90898933101197675832016-10-07T07:07:14.872+01:002016-10-07T07:07:14.872+01:00Steve,
if people can jettison so easily and in su...Steve,<br /><br />if people can jettison so easily and in such wholesale fashion the core ideas that defined them it is a very small step to abandon fidelity to the principle of not touting. I can't think of one of them still with the Provos who if it were to transpire that they were agents, that I could express surprise at. They are people who came to love what they once hated. <br /><br />AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-53541802809963541052016-10-06T22:21:23.788+01:002016-10-06T22:21:23.788+01:00AM,
Padraig Wilson, Seamus Finucane, and I could ...AM,<br /><br />Padraig Wilson, Seamus Finucane, and I could name a few others that I couldn't believe were touts including you.<br /><br />Or are you referring to just Shinners?Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-41121393192794334302016-10-06T09:23:16.528+01:002016-10-06T09:23:16.528+01:00AM,
"You could count them on the fingers of y...AM,<br />"You could count them on the fingers of your feet."......LOL....you're getting worse but you're right, to be honest nothing would surprise me now!<br />Plausible what you say and I think you sun it up best with,<br />" ... complex webs and deceit run in tandem."<br />It's odd that such a small cliche such as Adams' can control so much and yet so much Niallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013400649117430986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-18007335441595682552016-10-06T08:24:55.872+01:002016-10-06T08:24:55.872+01:00Niall,
It is not my view, however ... complex web...Niall,<br /><br />It is not my view, however ... complex webs and deceit run in tandem.<br /><br />Leaders like Adams (who claims to have instructed Leo/Declan to ask Denis if he was working for the Brits) most certainly knew a high level of penetration was the norm and were probably not surprised at any revelations. They also knew that the agents were furthering his agenda of foreclosing any AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-7248754665217898802016-10-06T08:04:04.831+01:002016-10-06T08:04:04.831+01:00AM,
Just a thought but could he have been playing ...AM,<br />Just a thought but could he have been playing a double agent? Although that would have been very difficult to maintain considering the amount of informers the Brits have in SF/PIRA. The reaction of the leadership to me at his outing was somewhat 'calm' for such a situation as if they had prior knowledge that this would some day happen plus Donaldson didn't run!<br /><br /><Niallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013400649117430986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-39548935863132718592016-10-05T21:27:48.525+01:002016-10-05T21:27:48.525+01:00AM,
Had to google the name, made me laugh though....AM,<br /><br />Had to google the name, made me laugh though. Jokes aside, like the X Files once said, a truth is best hidden between two lies.Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-45799914194576359502016-10-05T08:45:44.558+01:002016-10-05T08:45:44.558+01:00Niall,
you are right. It would hardly have been t...Niall,<br /><br />you are right. It would hardly have been the sole reason. And your suggestion that it was to protect somebody else is very valid. I just wonder had he been more malleable than they felt him to be would they have protected somebody else by outing him when they probably had so many ways of protecting that somebody else which did not involve throwing Denis under the bus. The one AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-47601987468885984712016-10-05T07:47:31.050+01:002016-10-05T07:47:31.050+01:00AM,
A more eloquent deciphering of the programme&#...AM,<br />A more eloquent deciphering of the programme's intent than my limited vocabulary and lack of cynical restraint could have mustered! I still have doubts as to his outing by C3 and find it hard to believe that his non-compliance in any matter was the sole reason. It could very well have been but that would have implied that he was more trouble than value. I would tend to believe he Niallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013400649117430986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-45732227884897129782016-10-04T22:10:52.151+01:002016-10-04T22:10:52.151+01:00"His categorical denials of IRA membership te..."His categorical denials of IRA membership tend to be equated with his many other categorical denials of involvement in politically violent activity. There are people who upon hearing his denials instinctively assume that what is being denied must therefore be true"<br /><br />Can't remember who it was but on another TPQ article a few months back they pointed out Adams denial of IRASteve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.com