Comments on The Pensive Quill: From Defeat to Decommissioning ....and Disbandment...

Liam, hardly anything new there! TB just admitti...

2010-09-04T14:52:20.646+01:00

Liam,

hardly anything new there! TB just admitting what the rest of us knew already. anybody waiting on the floodgate to open and all the liars to come rushing through will be disappointed. He put in a strong display on the Late Late last night.

In his memoirs, Tony Blair says he stretched the t...

2010-09-04T14:24:55.272+01:00

In his memoirs, Tony Blair says he stretched the truth, on occasions, "past breaking point".
Mr Blair admits to "bending and distorting" the truth as prime minister, but says a degree of manipulation and distortion are necessary to govern, and voters accept that. "Politicians are obliged from time to time to conceal the full truth, to bend it and even distort it,

Westie a cara, I penned my last response to you la...

2010-08-14T10:07:36.125+01:00

Westie a cara, I penned my last response to you last night after reading your reply and Anthony,s more than gracious response, as for my post well maybe as the man said I should have been more pensive with the quill, to much plum poteen and I was back in the sixties,where the biggest argument was were you a Beatles or Stones fan, (my case Dylan,Stones) anyway my point is your reply was a sweeping

Westie a cara we werent or I wasnt talking about t...

2010-08-13T21:12:33.492+01:00

Westie a cara we werent or I wasnt talking about the operations of the pira, as a supporter of psf and in your own words an Irish patriot,the questions I asked were relating to the actions of psf and the policies of psf,as and Irish patriot can you accept that the party you would call republican are now just a minor cog in the brit establishment,can you explain or comment on the picketing of

Fair enough Westie. Can't really ask for any m...

2010-08-13T20:24:48.407+01:00

Fair enough Westie. Can't really ask for any more than that.

Orwell once said socialism would be brilliant only for the socialists. I suppose you are in that frame of mind Westie. The single biggest obstacle to encouraging socialist ideas in the movement was the socialists. People would go out of jail full of revolutionary fervour and when they came back in again a few years later

Agreed Anthony - there have been many acts by the ...

2010-08-13T20:16:41.435+01:00

Agreed Anthony - there have been many acts by the Provisional Army that one would find it very hard to be proud of - but as an organisation, for what they endured and what they stood for in our communities, I think we will always be very proud!

Marty, I'm not a devout socialist myself, don't understand it enough and I get mixed messages from those I know who claim to be?

Westie, 'If Gerry A called someone an eejit...

2010-08-12T19:48:19.002+01:00

Westie,

'If Gerry A called someone an eejit, its a lot less vile than what he
and his fellow Shinners has been called over the past few years,
wouldn't you agree Marty?'

I agree. But not as vile as killing Joe O'Connor.

Wouldn't you agree Westie?

Westie a cara, we are agreed that everyone calls e...

2010-08-12T13:50:09.499+01:00

Westie a cara, we are agreed that everyone calls everyone else a c##t it,s the nature of the beast here.As you must be only a minor player in psf you are right not to expect any invites to the big boys holiday homes unless its to help serve canopies when the have alls throw their soiree,s,on a more serious note re prisioners, I would prefer that we had no political prisioners, but while we do I

Marty - I get 'your' point a chara - it j...

2010-08-11T22:37:06.789+01:00

Marty

- I get 'your' point a chara - it just isn't shared by me!

- I'm not expecting any invite to Donegal or any of our other beautiful counties. I have good company of my own.

As for the rest, I belive SF have been the main driving force, and continue to be so for the increase in Irish Language schools throughout the North. No other political

T.P Westie..."They tend to spend most of thei...

2010-08-10T16:21:52.184+01:00

T.P Westie..."They tend to spend most of their time throwing personal and collective insults at Adams etc".Well a cara calling a former member of the party an eejit by Adams ,how would you describe that? Squinter /Livinstone ,week in week out continually taking the piss out of those republicans who dont obey the bearded ones orders,after all rule no 1 he is the lord your god and you

Westie, feeling a bit beleagured here. I think we ...

2010-08-09T22:49:13.954+01:00

Westie, feeling a bit beleagured here. I think we will do what we normally do, agree to differ.

Westie a cara you give the impression that the rev...

2010-08-09T21:25:16.055+01:00

Westie a cara you give the impression that the revival of the Irish language is somehow down to psf, maybe you can give an example of that ,the Irish language act eh a cara mm! We built a school in honour of Bobby Sands in T/brook,no help from psf but there was a push for the bearded one to open it,and thankfully that didnt happen,psf have been stalling and procastinating on the prisoner issue,

Fionnuala You asked me the question. I gave you m...

2010-08-09T21:24:10.654+01:00

Fionnuala

You asked me the question. I gave you my answer, and I stand by it.

I didn't expect you to agree and you didn't disappoint!

Sin maith go leor.

Westie

Westie, when you said I would disagree with absolu...

2010-08-09T16:45:25.783+01:00

Westie, when you said I would disagree with absolutely everything you said you were totally right.

Rather than cover old ground I will just answer the points you made in relation to the changes Sinn Fein have brought about and the criminalisation of the struggle.

You say (paraphrasing again) The rise and rise of our culture especially the Irish language.
Are we

Westie, 'Combatants join up and take the ris...

2010-08-09T15:07:05.221+01:00

Westie,

'Combatants join up and take the risks along with the consequences, local taxi drivers are just out earning a bit of money for their families!

Is this what the people of Ireland today want?'

Can you point to a time when they ever wanted it?

Fionnuala I agree with you that volunteers did no...

2010-08-08T22:29:51.828+01:00

Fionnuala

I agree with you that volunteers did not die for a Stormont based power sharing govt. And I understand why people challenge the reality of the present day against previous statements and deeds by the Provisional movement -but that is what happens and has done through historical conflicts between nations.

Times and circumstances change, and obviously Sinn Féin took

Westie, I agree I have a problem with Sinn and the...

2010-08-06T23:50:43.356+01:00

Westie, I agree I have a problem with Sinn and their leadership, they are liars and they are hypocrites and I would hazzard a guess that a lot of people would find that a problem.

Westie, I also sgree there are a lot of committed people in Sinn Fein, the problem with that is, what are they committed to?

You suggest that, people who disagree with Sinn Fein should articulate

You have Jim Alister the turd talking about the sl...

2010-08-06T13:18:11.618+01:00

You have Jim Alister the turd talking about the slow slide of Ulster into a United Ireland with Mc Aleese at the RUC passing out parade and the IRA murderers now in government. Then you have the 'dissidents'. They are just mall-contents, the lot of them. What we have now in the North was on offer for the whole island before the first world war and was offered as an alternative to Home

MichaelHenry, When you have finished with Stephen...

2010-08-06T11:37:24.071+01:00

MichaelHenry,

When you have finished with Stephen King can I recommend David Feherty's "Somewhere In Ireland A Village Is Missing An Idiot". It may provide a roadmap home.

Cant disagree with that Robert although I do think...

2010-08-06T11:09:45.060+01:00

Cant disagree with that Robert although I do think Iris,s knicker elastic has damaged Peter the punt beyond repair, I agree he was far and away more capable and devious, as a successful politican usualy is.than any from psf,although O Dowd is worth watching imo,but as you say may they all s##t hedgehogs,although again this is where we disagree I,d prefer porcupines.deep fried hedgehog is tasty!!!

Westie you write,I do not accept that psf have aba...

2010-08-06T10:53:43.679+01:00

Westie you write,I do not accept that psf have abandoned their ideaology or fundamental goal, nor do I believe they have abandoned or de-legitimised the armed struggle of pira.I,d advise you to read Liam,s excellent post again a cara and all of it, take your time reading it,an example of abandoning ones ideaology would in my opinion would have been when socialist minister Mc Guinness as

id say that the chaplain who baptised you interest...

2010-08-05T23:32:11.164+01:00

id say that the chaplain who baptised you interested,
raised his eye-brow when he was told your name.

words, whats wrong with words next
no crown oath here, so you say so what, not a nice republican position to take, is their a lick of sense in you,
you ask who is in charge, the people are in charge,

the british goverment are subjects,
that is their

It was a decent piece alright, well researched and...

2010-08-05T23:17:27.293+01:00

It was a decent piece alright, well researched and well written. As I read down, I did get a sense that it was a tad one sided - but that's fair enough, most articles are.

Fionnuala, you will never accept the Leadership, and that's your perogative, but I think you should stop insinuating that everyone who continues to support and work for Sinn Féin is nothing but a blind and

robert, notice you wrote that the crown oath is di...

2010-08-05T22:35:55.494+01:00

robert, notice you wrote that the crown oath is discriminatory
like it still is now at westminister and in the scottish and welsh parliaments,
can us catholics sue then, the queen is immune from the law but her little helpers are not exempt from the law,

sunningdale and that 1982 attempt both failed because republicans were not in the mix,
no crown oath, thats a good one

Marty, My view of Stormont is essentially that of...

2010-08-05T21:32:12.517+01:00

Marty,

My view of Stormont is essentially that of a talking shop albeit with a substantial budget. Gerry and Marty don't concern me for two reasons - the real power still resides in Westminster and secondly the bold Peter will and has wiped the floor with the two of them. I have often thought that Haughey's description of Ahern was a perfect fit for Robinson in Unionist terms