tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post6288861492602477088..comments2024-03-29T06:51:03.388+00:00Comments on TPQ: After Nice, We Should Fight Islamic State Terror With Ruthless ProgressivismAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-9225048768112725892016-07-30T19:22:13.396+01:002016-07-30T19:22:13.396+01:00Christy, covering of some form is usually done af...Christy, covering of some form is usually done after their first period, so its pretty awful to do it babies. But then what horrifies us is cheered on the Left as sign of yet more diversity. I don't want to live in a world like that.DaithiDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03154264514142897745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-70725888464890572442016-07-29T13:41:16.699+01:002016-07-29T13:41:16.699+01:00DD
Just the other day I saw what must have been a...DD<br /><br />Just the other day I saw what must have been a 3 or 4 year old girl (judging from her size and the way she was walking) with her head and face covered -that should be outlawed in Ireland.Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-6228102124894660952016-07-29T12:29:44.365+01:002016-07-29T12:29:44.365+01:00A worthwhile read for those with some time<a href="http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/" rel="nofollow">A worthwhile read for those with some time</a>AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-72108277105918124312016-07-28T21:44:43.127+01:002016-07-28T21:44:43.127+01:00Christy, the mass enslavement of women/girls doesn...Christy, the mass enslavement of women/girls doesn't fit their counter violence theories either. What countries where Muslims are at least a sizable minority do they peacefully coexist with non-Muslims? This can't all be explained wih references to the US can it?DaithiDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03154264514142897745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-56948801541090487012016-07-28T17:56:26.080+01:002016-07-28T17:56:26.080+01:00Christy, we're going round in circles here. Y...Christy, we're going round in circles here. Yes Muslims kill more people than other religions. Most of the wars are happening in Muslim's countries so obviously there's a higher death count, who's responsible for most, if not all of these conflicts? There's always a multitude of reasons for bloodshed, religion just makes people comfortable with it Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-48334459588098024772016-07-28T10:30:21.810+01:002016-07-28T10:30:21.810+01:00David
" it all depends on interpretation or ...David<br /><br />" it all depends on interpretation or where you live in the world"<br /><br />No it doesn't, it 'depends' on the global death count were religion was the reason. Universally it is undisputed that Muslims are killing more people in the name of Islam than any other religion. It is hard not to see what you are trying to do as anything other than attempting to Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-92019653059129359642016-07-27T19:26:11.169+01:002016-07-27T19:26:11.169+01:00Christy, I am going to leave it at this. Just fin...Christy, I am going to leave it at this. Just finish by saying, it all depends on interpretation or where you live in the world.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-87796236829293537142016-07-27T01:09:11.950+01:002016-07-27T01:09:11.950+01:00David
Perhaps the confusions stems from your relu...David<br /><br />Perhaps the confusions stems from your reluctance to face factual reality in terms of religious extremism -you equivocate: "In the current atmosphere you'd say a Muslim extremist is more dangerous but you never know". Well actually we do know; there is only one religion dominating the news almost daily for the past few years.<br />Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-66617319640168583092016-07-26T19:02:30.402+01:002016-07-26T19:02:30.402+01:00Christy, you speak as if i am making excuses for ...Christy, you speak as if i am making excuses for jihad, I am merely pointing out the correlation between western expansionism and jihadi recruitment. I have no time for Islam and would oppose it's expansionism, but you seem to ignore the horrors of western 'democratic' expansionism. I don't think it's making excuses for slaughter wondering what could turn so many young men Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-41647029706861813292016-07-26T17:35:39.218+01:002016-07-26T17:35:39.218+01:00Christy,
it seems to vary from country to country...Christy,<br /><br />it seems to vary from country to country and there is no unified Islam. Within the OIC there is a lot of differentiation - although it is worthwhile noting how Geoffrey Robertson was very critical of it making common cause with the Vatican at the UN when it comes to denying rights and advancing reactionary agendas. The lesson the world learned from having to curb Christianity AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-25365464125423609142016-07-26T17:07:11.542+01:002016-07-26T17:07:11.542+01:00AM
That sounds about right -but the persuasive po...AM <br />That sounds about right -but the persuasive power of Islam controls the populace -just look at how Hamas religious police whip people in the street if they step out of line or how the Sauadi's use Shari to maintain power.Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-42583091150221318032016-07-26T16:55:54.946+01:002016-07-26T16:55:54.946+01:00Christy,
I think they are fighting both. But I ha...Christy,<br /><br />I think they are fighting both. But I have long viewed them as having no liberationist impulse but rather one that seeks to deny liberation and impose a theocracy or an authoritarian system. The question is how they become so powerful. It is not the persuasive power of Islam that has made them so. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-87343970670544914522016-07-26T16:42:35.667+01:002016-07-26T16:42:35.667+01:00AM
Yes I know, I remember it being said of squadi...AM<br /><br />Yes I know, I remember it being said of squadies and manys a squaddie would be obviously ill at ease doing a stop and search or something. I have read and heard interviews by soldiers where they talk of how if they grew up as nationalists in Belfast they would join the IRA. In fact thousands of Irish people joined the British Army as a means to excape their own background of Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-82330031998346352342016-07-26T15:25:35.702+01:002016-07-26T15:25:35.702+01:00DaithiD,
Scholarly interpretation means scholars ...DaithiD,<br /><br />Scholarly interpretation means scholars disagree on the text and it suggests there are different ways of reading these things. <br /><br />Cut to the chase - is the god of your bible a mass murderer or not? It can't be that hard to answer. <br /><br />AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-89237186278077042552016-07-26T15:23:04.519+01:002016-07-26T15:23:04.519+01:00Christy,
I no longer know who wrote what in these...Christy,<br /><br />I no longer know who wrote what in these holy books because they were all written by men putting words in the mouths of other men. Maybe it is the same with Mohammad too. <br /><br />God didn't actually exist to carry out any atrocities so I have to presume all the atrocities where they occurred were carried out by men using the usual old excuse. The point about the bible AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-64826040105401041202016-07-26T13:29:25.938+01:002016-07-26T13:29:25.938+01:00David
Beheading hostages and such like long preda...David<br /><br />Beheading hostages and such like long predate 9/11. In Egypt and Indonesia it was common place for non-Muslim school girls to be abducted going to or coming from school only to be married off within the hour to make them Muslim. Non-Muslims living in majority Muslim countries have to pay the government protection money just to exist, the list is endless of Islam's Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-66315590071877431502016-07-26T12:36:46.880+01:002016-07-26T12:36:46.880+01:00AM, i carefully chose my question : its a pretty w...AM, i carefully chose my question : its a pretty weird interpretation of the bible to think its an instruction to assume the role of God. Al-Qaeda quote scripture against ISIS too, it really says nothing about the scholars that condemn them, unless you know what they stand for.Much too much supposition.DaithiDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03154264514142897745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-36180584281105684522016-07-26T11:06:07.096+01:002016-07-26T11:06:07.096+01:00DaithiD,
that may be in the text but it is how it...DaithiD,<br /><br />that may be in the text but it is how it is lived out. Scholars have taken to quoting Mohammad against ISIS. <br /><br />Who in the bible? Well, try the murderous big lad himself who committed genocide; who inflicted mass infanticide on the Egyptian first born. <br /><br />Try this: <br /><br /><i>Biblical scholar Raymond Schwager:<br /><br /><br />"... has found 600 AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-19576041238676682652016-07-26T10:10:27.974+01:002016-07-26T10:10:27.974+01:00AM,if it was a case of whose Unicorns horn is bigg...AM,if it was a case of whose Unicorns horn is biggest in our fairytale, id understand your point. But its not,Islam is more than just a practice of faith, its a whole legal and economic system. You are the one that keeps trying to separate this aspect from Islam. as if its some fringe pursuit.Sharia Law is extremism in simple black and white. Its not an interpretation issue.<br /><br />If there DaithiDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03154264514142897745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-37319697088534656622016-07-26T08:18:28.832+01:002016-07-26T08:18:28.832+01:00David,
I have problems when people rule out the r...David,<br /><br />I have problems when people rule out the religious input and blame it on everything else. This is where I come at it in relation to DaithiD who for some reason thinks his sacred text is less obnoxious than Islam's and wishes to blame Islam per se rather than the interpretation and use of the text for political reasons. Christy takes a more functional approach but still AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-77208334839937503132016-07-25T21:47:56.717+01:002016-07-25T21:47:56.717+01:00I have no doubt about the aspirations of Islamic i...I have no doubt about the aspirations of Islamic imperialism. My point is to focus solely on the religious aspect lets so many people of the hook, it irritates me. The inability of some people to accept similarities between religions bamboozles meDavidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-83621073028020824192016-07-25T20:48:03.114+01:002016-07-25T20:48:03.114+01:00David,
I think this is the crux of it. There is n...David,<br /><br />I think this is the crux of it. There is no doubt that there is an impulse for domination within Islam. Just like all religions. And I would not term it theocratic fascism if I did not believe religion factored in. But I often ask if Islam is the motivating factor or is it the legitimising factor. <br /><br />Geopolitics has a lot to do with the mushrooming of religious AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-14908605977994222232016-07-25T20:25:08.878+01:002016-07-25T20:25:08.878+01:00Christy, am not finding excuses for anybody. And ...Christy, am not finding excuses for anybody. And yes evidently they commit atrocities for their God, but to label them as purely religious fanatics misses the point. If it was purely about Islamic domination, where were the consistent attacks before" intervention "?Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-89565764796688641172016-07-25T20:05:43.038+01:002016-07-25T20:05:43.038+01:00Christy,
in my view the "in your face threat...Christy,<br /><br />in my view the "in your face threat" is not posed by Islam per se but people carrying out attacks in the name of Islam. I prefer the term Islamicists. <br /><br />The problem faced by health authorities was that even when the Church was not trying to actively disrupt the distribution of condoms it was engaged in a strategy of deceit in a bid to discourage the use of AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-48251230902631646492016-07-25T19:45:27.283+01:002016-07-25T19:45:27.283+01:00DaithiD,
a pretty weak outing from Murray who can...DaithiD,<br /><br />a pretty weak outing from Murray who can be much more erudite when he writes. <br /><br />We know there is a serious problem with how these matters can be handled. You just picked a poor example. We don't have to think back beyond Charlie Hebdo to see the attitude of the media. We also know the attitude towards the Danish anti-theocratic cartoons was not guided by AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.com