tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post4319940590874978431..comments2024-03-28T17:44:07.653+00:00Comments on TPQ: “We Can’t Take On Both At Once” – The Nield Letter On IRA And UDAAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-16292037159805650122015-06-20T05:20:42.138+01:002015-06-20T05:20:42.138+01:00tiarna
I don't disagree with what you say. Wa...tiarna<br /><br />I don't disagree with what you say. Was just pointing out what was being bandied about at the time. The civil rights issue was hijacked by republicans in a bid to destroy norn iron. All they had to do was enter Stormont and fuck the place up completely without firing a shot like now lol The shithole wasn't worth a single life-er.larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-13988774416236182252015-06-19T16:05:22.895+01:002015-06-19T16:05:22.895+01:00Cue Bono
Unionist supremacy and hatred of Catholi...Cue Bono<br /><br />Unionist supremacy and hatred of Catholics/nationalists existed regardless of the existence,never mind activities, of the IRA. If there never had been any IRA -Unionists would still hate Catholics/nationalists, discriminate against them and every 12th July kill their token taigs. Unionist Supremacy was probably never going to be stopped but for the resort of violence. <br /Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04285159252818207266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-73268349577404662712015-06-19T15:43:52.209+01:002015-06-19T15:43:52.209+01:00Cuo Bono
You indicated the that IRA started the v...Cuo Bono<br /><br />You indicated the that IRA started the violence -I pointed out that the violence originated with unionism (they just beat a few pesky Fenians up) -oh, you picked up on the miniscule IRA pre-internment to the deadly post-internment organisation it became. Yeah that did back fire a bit didn't it!<br /><br />If you think that thirty five years of murder, and the deaths of Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04285159252818207266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-69268136473314585932015-06-19T13:42:13.269+01:002015-06-19T13:42:13.269+01:00Tiarna,
You use the old republican tactic of usin...Tiarna,<br /><br />You use the old republican tactic of using a little bit of truth and weaving it into a big lie. The initial internment sweeps were a failure because the intelligence it was based on was flawed and the wrong people were lifted. After that they started to lift the right people,and it was hurting the Provos badly. Their campaign received a massive boost when the internees were Cue Bonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15951825726248815243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-49941681404838792852015-06-19T12:45:15.493+01:002015-06-19T12:45:15.493+01:00The Brits have long conceded to Internment being a...The Brits have long conceded to Internment being a failure because the IRA knew they were coming and not available for capture -so no I was not being disingenuous -Yes it was to intimate and terrorize the nationalist community just as loyalists violence was -claiming to be targeting the IRA has never justified their targeting of civilians.<br /><br />As for the violence -peaceful civil rights Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04285159252818207266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-48203815948395162062015-06-18T19:38:14.411+01:002015-06-18T19:38:14.411+01:00tiarna,
You are being disingenuous when you descr...tiarna,<br /><br />You are being disingenuous when you describe internment as being launched against nationalists. It was launched against the IRA and I think that Anthony will confirm that the vast majority of those interned in the republican cages were indeed active Provos. Why did the Brits concentrate on the IRA? Because the Provos were trying to destroy the place and were responsible for Cue Bonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15951825726248815243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-45248487701743810282015-06-18T17:49:17.838+01:002015-06-18T17:49:17.838+01:00Larry PS: The British Army was ignorant of the rea...Larry PS: The British Army was ignorant of the realities in Ireland for centuries because they did what the wanted and the Irish would like it or lump it -that's a lame excuse for oppression, Would you excuse slavery the same way because slave traders were ignorant of Africa?Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04285159252818207266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-29692650167518827142015-06-18T17:45:12.615+01:002015-06-18T17:45:12.615+01:00Larry
It makes sense to you not "to irrespon...Larry<br /><br />It makes sense to you not "to irresponsibly let scores of thousands of loyalists and UDR RUC go berserk would it not?" You think backing them and arming them 'responsibly' was fair practice for a peace keeping force (Brits stated objective) between 2 sides? <br /><br />Written evidence of acquiescing or colluding with loyalists is a smoking gun and the more ofChristy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04285159252818207266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-87323037431381899842015-06-18T14:38:25.742+01:002015-06-18T14:38:25.742+01:00tiarna
I remember as a child my grandmother stati...tiarna<br /><br />I remember as a child my grandmother stating the British army was initially ignorant of the realities in the wee 6. There was the much stated 'honeymoon period' with cups of tea etc. Stormont introduced internment within minutes of WW2 being declared and the wee 6 was notoriously lack lustre and 'out' of the war. So, it was no different during the demand for larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-80588031968427235692015-06-18T10:12:02.724+01:002015-06-18T10:12:02.724+01:00Cue Bono & Larry Hughes
You both give a new s...Cue Bono & Larry Hughes<br /><br />You both give a new spin on the origins of the sectarian state and the occupation of Ireland generally -it did not just come about as tactical maneuver of crisis management between 2 factions in 1972. <br /><br />When Internment was introduced exclusively against nationalists and if any IRA members were arrested was purely by accident -internment was Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04285159252818207266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-89325278805565609532015-06-18T09:04:12.816+01:002015-06-18T09:04:12.816+01:00Don't see much in that myself. There was obvio...Don't see much in that myself. There was obviously a natural alliance with the loyalists politically but the document can hardly be described as a smoking gun. It would have surely made sense to contain the smaller anti state IRA of an estimated few hundred than to irresponsibly let scores of thousands of loyalists and UDR RUC go berserk would it not? Though they fucked all that up too with larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-83772132571030486352015-06-17T22:44:49.048+01:002015-06-17T22:44:49.048+01:00The vacant houses which the Provos intended to fil...The vacant houses which the Provos intended to fill with 'Catholic refugee families' wouldn't have belonged to 'Protestant refugee families' would they by any chance? <br /><br />Anyone reading that letter can see that it explicity states that "the army can neither ally with one or the other". Ed Moloney is making a mighty leap in his article with absolutely zero Cue Bonohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15951825726248815243noreply@blogger.com