tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post3670550732009182430..comments2024-03-29T11:31:52.337+00:00Comments on TPQ: One Era Ends As Another Begins – Where To For Irish Republicanism?AMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-57078092123544020112017-11-29T20:16:39.366+00:002017-11-29T20:16:39.366+00:00Tarlach,
I don't mean in the over-arching sen...Tarlach,<br /><br />I don't mean in the over-arching sense of the capabilities the Provisionals had in the 80's-90's, I meant more in the skeleton of structure. Though I don't ever see it returning a hypothetical act of barbarism by the British Army would instantly see the skeleton regain flesh.<br /><br />Storey, Wilson and others certainly would not have dismantled the Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-67288533840467019342017-11-28T22:27:26.750+00:002017-11-28T22:27:26.750+00:00Steve R
I think that people are confused about th...Steve R<br /><br />I think that people are confused about the Provisional movement on all sides. Either they are playing a shrewd game or, they simply don't have one. I haven't heard of the 'Provies' in years and I don't know if that is because they are better business people than those from other groups are, or because they genuinely have left the stage. Certainly I wouldn&#Tarlach Mac Dhónaillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069746947899214299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-30732290889249106132017-11-28T20:24:43.381+00:002017-11-28T20:24:43.381+00:00Tarlach,
That Unionist commentator is well known ...Tarlach,<br /><br />That Unionist commentator is well known to be bonkers. Within the PUL community there's no illusion that it's either went away or is even remotely likely to. Exactly the same as the Loyalist groupings, in one form or another they will always be there in the shadows. Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-19523201861008903342017-11-27T22:18:28.801+00:002017-11-27T22:18:28.801+00:00Niall,
there's much more denial, delusion and...Niall,<br /><br />there's much more denial, delusion and deceit going on than that which might be placed at the feet of <i>partitionist nationalists</i>.<br /><br />Look, if you can, to the log in thine own eye!<br />(Hint; why did Connolly degree that no shots be fired in the North in 1916).Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-72653322845697823362017-11-27T21:44:33.218+00:002017-11-27T21:44:33.218+00:00The plan seems to be hinged on shelving Adams unti...The plan seems to be hinged on shelving Adams until the opportune time arrives to unwrap him for a presidential election race in the Free-State. He will not be at the helm when important debates such as coalition options really come to the fore in the party. It is interesting to see Unionist commentators on this site seeking the retention of the PAC in this regard. His resignation announcement Tarlach Mac Dhónaillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069746947899214299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-14782071055852099662017-11-27T20:17:12.008+00:002017-11-27T20:17:12.008+00:00Niall,
partitionist nationalists are nationalists...Niall,<br /><br />partitionist nationalists are nationalists who support the partition principle otherwise known as the consent principle. There are many more of them than there are any other sort of nationalist and they have a long history which predates the emergence of the Provisional IRA. AMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-75131742664839014982017-11-27T09:51:14.954+00:002017-11-27T09:51:14.954+00:00AM and Robert,
Partitionist nationalists are self-...AM and Robert,<br />Partitionist nationalists are self-deluded British subjects who wish to have a foot in each camp but keep their presence in one camp quiet.....the practical reality is that they don't actually exist. They may outwardly appear to be nationalist but otherwise they are as British as Finchley and so not nationalist. Niallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013400649117430986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-50858708836873490382017-11-26T22:55:29.374+00:002017-11-26T22:55:29.374+00:00Your observations regarding Adams are spot on Dixi...Your observations regarding Adams are spot on Dixie but what I meant with the comment about responsibility related more to further down the line than the period you mentioned. In 1997 it was already obvious to me that the political process we were engaged in was heading towards a settlement that encompassed a continuation of partition. I was a teenager at the time in question and yet still could Sean Bresnahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06842180620284317746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-63970891658918672912017-11-26T21:50:40.313+00:002017-11-26T21:50:40.313+00:00Niall,
I am a Unionist but I see your point. As A...Niall,<br /><br />I am a Unionist but I see your point. As Anthony said, not every Nationalist may automatically vote for a UI especially if they can have their cake and eat it.<br /><br />And was it yourself that pointed out that the South may not want a bar of the troublesome Nordies in the event of a UI anyway?Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-47415000002775836962017-11-26T19:39:44.183+00:002017-11-26T19:39:44.183+00:00Niall,
"..those who claim to be Nationalist ...Niall,<br /><br />"..those who claim to be Nationalist and vote against a United Ireland are not nationalist to begin with. How could they be?"<br /><br />With considerable rational.<br /><br />I expect for those who identify as nationalist but otherwise dissent from its absolutism, the trade off is one between aspiration and pragmatism. They appear no less nationalist for it.<br /><br Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10522188005971742857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-26519651722239124662017-11-26T19:22:16.379+00:002017-11-26T19:22:16.379+00:00Sean who else but Adams and those in his 'Thin...Sean who else but Adams and those in his 'Think Tank', the likes of McGuinness and Ted Howell etc (the Ted in his tweets), could have undermined the Movement from within? <br />Adams in fact created a movement within the Movement, or the cancerous growth which weakened and eventually brought about the demise of the IRA.<br /><br />He did this by willingly sacrificing men and women who Dixiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12754168725444955859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-7491118688732020172017-11-26T13:14:55.215+00:002017-11-26T13:14:55.215+00:00Sean
thanks for sharing your thoughts on evolving...Sean<br /><br />thanks for sharing your thoughts on evolving events but regardless of with whom, regardless of where, the <i>leadership</i> of Provisional Republicanism lay in the past ... and indeed where it might fall in the future it (Provisional Republicanism) follows a course not of its own charting.<br /><br />Having missed the premiere of <a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/film/Henry JoYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04161613445053833181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-57613501561573318582017-11-26T12:32:37.522+00:002017-11-26T12:32:37.522+00:00Niall, they are what I would call partitionist nat...Niall, they are what I would call partitionist nationalistsAMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-29162387844013696832017-11-26T11:39:40.445+00:002017-11-26T11:39:40.445+00:00Steve R,
Steve that is a very Unionist take on Nas...Steve R,<br />Steve that is a very Unionist take on Nastionalism and which Unionism seems to think it knows Irish Nationalism....it doesn't and it always interprets Nationalism in terms of Unionism....those who claim to be Nationalist and vote against a United Ireland are not nationalist to begin with. How could they be?Niallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013400649117430986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-15696177206065859722017-11-26T05:12:38.259+00:002017-11-26T05:12:38.259+00:00Given that the citizens of the 6 counties can hold...Given that the citizens of the 6 counties can hold dual citizenship and in the light of brexit, I wonder if many nationalists would vote for a united Ireland when they can have the best of both worlds.Steve Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13670990166576346966noreply@blogger.com