tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post1970082629527263354..comments2024-03-28T17:44:07.653+00:00Comments on TPQ: Charlie HebdoAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-5869142523438382542015-01-13T19:06:11.677+00:002015-01-13T19:06:11.677+00:00grouch said:
'their wud have been something in...grouch said:<br />'their wud have been something in the gospel if jesus was down on gays.'<br /><br />There's specific condemnation of homosexuality in the letters of Christ's apostles - the men He sent to bring us all we need to know about godly living.<br /><br />Why did He not specifically mention homosexual sin? The same reason He did not mention incest, beastiality, etc. Wolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964418362730102151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-65153660292700769322015-01-12T11:59:04.577+00:002015-01-12T11:59:04.577+00:00their wud have been something in the gospel if jes...their wud have been something in the gospel if jesus was down on gays. i feel sorry for gay people in ireland, especially the bullying we are so good at here. but im not down with gay marriage or adoption, which to some people makes me a homophobe. whatever. hello wolfesbane me aul segocia, long time no see, happy new year and all that, our lord said nothing about gays in the gospel but he did Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-41712431359392640132015-01-10T18:25:32.606+00:002015-01-10T18:25:32.606+00:00Peter said:
'[It has still to be proven that ...Peter said:<br /><br />'[It has still to be proven that one is born gay].<br />You lost it right there. You cannot be serious! Gay as a lifestyle choice? Get real. My mate had a nervous breakdown at 21 because he didn't want to be gay, couldn't face being gay. Tell him it was his choice.'<br /><br />I'm not talking about someone waking up one day and deciding to change his Wolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964418362730102151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-60592895161884540402015-01-10T17:40:33.879+00:002015-01-10T17:40:33.879+00:00frankie said:
'the GODS made US in THEIR like...frankie said:<br /><br />'the GODS made US in THEIR likeness.. (so it says in the first book of the bible)...'<br /><br />Yes, the triune GOD made Adam & Eve in His image. Perfect - until they sinned. After that - what we see today. Sin of all types.<br /><br />'Now if the first book is correct then there has to GODESS's.. and maybe, more than likely a few GAY gods...'<brWolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964418362730102151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-82322283770564570192015-01-09T20:41:50.795+00:002015-01-09T20:41:50.795+00:00Wolfsbane
"It has still to be proven that one...Wolfsbane<br />"It has still to be proven that one is born gay".<br /><br />You lost it right there. You cannot be serious! Gay as a lifestyle choice? Get real. My mate had a nervous breakdown at 21 because he didn't want to be gay, couldn't face being gay. Tell him it was his choice. And you lower yourself to comparing gayness with paedophilia. The difference is that gay peoplePeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027470398152153427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-58727024951842876122015-01-09T19:05:21.158+00:002015-01-09T19:05:21.158+00:00Harm to fellow-man is not synonymous with immorali...<i>Harm to fellow-man is not synonymous with immorality. The Christian view of morality is determined by God's commands. God is the one being harmed - insulted by behaviour contrary to His will.</i><br /><br />Wolf we've been down this road loads of times.. again the GODS made US in THEIR likeness.. (so it says in the first book of the bible)...<br /><br />Now if the first book is correctfrankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-75214541437639129592015-01-09T16:39:13.199+00:002015-01-09T16:39:13.199+00:00frankie said:
'Can't buy into that school...frankie said:<br /><br />'Can't buy into that school of thought. If two consenting male adults want to be each others bum bandit and no one gets hurt in the process then what harm is there?'<br /><br />Harm to fellow-man is not synonymous with immorality. The Christian view of morality is determined by God's commands. God is the one being harmed - insulted by behaviour contrary Wolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964418362730102151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-6430937540431461352015-01-09T16:28:44.201+00:002015-01-09T16:28:44.201+00:00Peter said:
'How can homosexuality be immoral...Peter said:<br /><br />'How can homosexuality be immoral if you are born that way?'<br /><br />It has still to be proven that one is born gay.<br /><br />But let's accept it for argument's sake. How about being born paedosexual? Would that make it right? Or born psychopathic - would that make one's actions right?<br /><br />No - if one is born with immoral tendencies, that Wolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964418362730102151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-78261437056856058222015-01-09T11:43:41.340+00:002015-01-09T11:43:41.340+00:00Peter,
While i agree with your analysis ...Peter,<br /> While i agree with your analysis of wolfesbane's comments, i disagree with your solution. Hate laws will be used to silence dissenters. Hate laws are facism by the back door. Each individiual who commits suicide, trgic as it always is, has their own reasons for doing so. The only people who can help them are their support structure, families and friends, if they have Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-77448307295721155762015-01-09T02:07:39.186+00:002015-01-09T02:07:39.186+00:00Simon
When I quoted your words "Killing peop...Simon<br /><br />When I quoted your words "Killing people is also wrong" means I was distinguishing that your use of "curtailed" meant something else.<br /><br />When you related the words Libel and hate crime as a means of describing Charlie Hebdo's work for which they were murdered you were depicting the victims as in someway bad people --they weren't but you were Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04285159252818207266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-76142913268304426702015-01-08T21:13:59.196+00:002015-01-08T21:13:59.196+00:00wolfsbane,
Can't buy into that school of thou...wolfsbane,<br /><br />Can't buy into that school of thought. If two consenting male adults want to be each others bum bandit and no one gets hurt in the process then what harm is there? Same as if two consenting adult ladies decided to play girly lesbi friends.... all's fair in love in and war..<br /><br />Religion simply blinkers people... Free yourself Wolf, pull up a chair and come frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-66537858514228601832015-01-08T20:58:09.934+00:002015-01-08T20:58:09.934+00:00Wolfsbane
How can homosexuality be immoral if you ...Wolfsbane<br />How can homosexuality be immoral if you are born that way? Why does your god make so many gays if it is immoral? There is evidence of homosexuality in humans dating back millennia, it isn't a lifestyle choice. Telling gay people that they must lead celibate and lonely lives because some imaginary sky god thinks they are deviant, now that's immoral. Telling young fragile Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027470398152153427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-57129810181132377862015-01-08T20:01:51.430+00:002015-01-08T20:01:51.430+00:00maybe "I Love Charlie", and by God my wo...<i> maybe <b>"I Love Charlie"</b>, and by God my words will be met with actions! <b>*sniffs*</b></i><br /><br />DaithiD,<br /><br />I hope you don't mean when you say "I love charlie, sniffs"... anything un-to ward like <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DKxDzdJ3Ig" rel="nofollow"> this</a> or <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhFF_NhaUIU" rel="nofollow"> frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-51975721790342483602015-01-08T19:17:23.007+00:002015-01-08T19:17:23.007+00:00I fully agree with free speech and press freedom. ...I fully agree with free speech and press freedom. And blasphemy laws are just silly.<br /><br />But remember that 'fascism' is not limited to imperial religions. The secular humanism of today often persecutes all who will not accept its beliefs - for example, that homosexuality is not immoral. It seems that Christians like me who hold that it is immoral are guilty of hate speech and soWolfsbanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03964418362730102151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-62213397650092541422015-01-08T19:07:28.237+00:002015-01-08T19:07:28.237+00:00Destruction of countries for no god reason is the ...Destruction of countries for no god reason is the wests MO. Business as usual, The awful murders by intolerant nutters is a wee taster up close of what our own governments have been exporting. Ireland and Shannon airport is not innocent in all of that. <br /><br />Feel really awdul for the victims in this. I actually hope those who did it get the same in the coming hours. But I do feel this is larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-48331799893538088682015-01-08T18:49:11.451+00:002015-01-08T18:49:11.451+00:00Frankie, to bury bad news and ignore truths , Bara...Frankie, to bury bad news and ignore truths , Barack Obama said this is 2012 after the first cartoon ‘scandal’:<br /><i>The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.</i><br />Now he wants us to believe he is “Charlie” too :<br /><i>…one thing that I'm very confident about is that the values that we share with the French people, a belief — a universal belief in the DaithiDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03154264514142897745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-14517549580486245002015-01-08T17:46:25.078+00:002015-01-08T17:46:25.078+00:00Simon,
France fund the local taliban... There is ...Simon,<br /><br />France fund the local taliban... There is a huge social security fraud scam going on. Basically in France you sign on 'online' once every three months and your money is in your bank account on the 5th of every month (6th if you've a post office bank account)...<---thats for the equivilent of JSA.. For 'normal' unemployment benefits you sign on 'online&frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-47807838546687256392015-01-08T17:39:56.835+00:002015-01-08T17:39:56.835+00:00Simon,
Its either free speech or cenorship...Simon,<br /> Its either free speech or cenorship that's the only two choices when you get right down to it. Every publication, main stream or alternative should show the cartoon of mohammed.This would aleviate the pressure on certain journalists. They are advocators of free speech or they aren't. Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14120277877011965034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-69903779325723793632015-01-08T15:39:21.413+00:002015-01-08T15:39:21.413+00:00As a side line due to yesterdays events in Paris (...As a side line due to yesterdays events in Paris (and the Ched Evans affair in Britian)... It's a good time for the 'powers that be' to bury bad news...frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-42588344741425712932015-01-08T15:16:09.792+00:002015-01-08T15:16:09.792+00:00Frankie, I don't know if it is true. I read it...Frankie, I don't know if it is true. I read it in Robert Fisk's "Age of the Warrior" if my memory serves me correctly. A source I would rely on at any rate.<br /><br />I personally wouldn't fund taliban members no matter where the money went, hookers or violence.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029656112153509987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-66682895772876647982015-01-08T15:12:29.616+00:002015-01-08T15:12:29.616+00:00Peter, "So you think that we shouldn't po...Peter, "So you think that we shouldn't poke fun at a religion in case people get angry? What nonsense." I didn't say that as you are right it would be nonsense. I believe if you are malicious in your intent by understanding there is a great likelihood of violence leading to a greater likelihood of a backlash focusing on a religious people through a draconian backlash against Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029656112153509987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-26640204479497182192015-01-08T14:18:53.708+00:002015-01-08T14:18:53.708+00:00Simon,
They (7/7 bombers) that was a black flag o...Simon,<br /><br />They (7/7 bombers) that was a black flag op btw... went to strip clubs to get their rocks off. They got drunk to get pissed. I know too many god fearing taliban to buy into the crap... They are as corrupt as god fearing christians.<br /><br />If you or anyone else wants to buy into the line that the local taliban don't use 20 euro hookers, get stoned etc... go a head and frankiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00452424095829736700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-18852355938545474172015-01-08T13:29:19.475+00:002015-01-08T13:29:19.475+00:00Simon
Free speech is a fundemental tenet of wester...Simon<br />Free speech is a fundemental tenet of western culture. All religions have the right to worship here, in return we are free to criticise their religion. So you think that we shouldn't poke fun at a religion in case people get angry? What nonsense. These cartoonists poked fun at all religions and rightly so. No-one with power must be free from criticism.<br />I recommend you read Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15027470398152153427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-2662981563982527362015-01-08T10:57:03.028+00:002015-01-08T10:57:03.028+00:00Frankie, I read that the London bombers visited st...Frankie, I read that the London bombers visited strip clubs and drank alcohol to throw the authorities off the scent, so that they didn't think they were violent fundamentalists. Now it is such an obvious ruse that the authorities wouldn't be fooled.Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029656112153509987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-63368836687450022362015-01-08T10:50:51.080+00:002015-01-08T10:50:51.080+00:00Tiarna, you know rightly that isn't what I mea...Tiarna, you know rightly that isn't what I meant by the word "curtailed".<br /><br />I suspect that you also know that libel was only mentioned as an example of a reason to restrict free speech and not specific to this case. Please restrain yourself from corrupting the meaning of my argument in so crass a fashion.<br /><br />These cartoons from my perspective weren't meant to Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029656112153509987noreply@blogger.com