tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post1452647386286519369..comments2024-03-29T13:37:11.174+00:00Comments on TPQ: Identity Politics And The Art Of DeceptionAMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00559413440743290550noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-50679221322165642672017-03-22T14:09:08.621+00:002017-03-22T14:09:08.621+00:00Larry
Not being confrontational but speaking matt...Larry<br /><br />Not being confrontational but speaking matter of factly -you said Nationalist intolerance was an equal contributor to the Troubles -tactics is something different entirely. One could say that Unionists ought to have dealt with nationalists in the 1920s as they are compelled to do so today. <br /><br />Nationalists attempted, by peaceful means,to highlight the discrimination, Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-11810999379469522102017-03-22T00:19:40.488+00:002017-03-22T00:19:40.488+00:00Christy Walsh
Their tactics did them no favours. ...Christy Walsh<br /><br />Their tactics did them no favours. The partition was the great undemocratic crime. Unionist rule was a further abomination. Nationalists did little to help themselves by boycotting the institutions, in hindsight of course, especially given where SF have arrived at today. Nobody digging nor being confrontational. Just stating the obvious I would have thought.larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-50998771822262214872017-03-21T19:13:16.465+00:002017-03-21T19:13:16.465+00:00Larry
Where have i gotten it wrong? You have said...Larry<br /><br />Where have i gotten it wrong? You have said Nationalists were equally to blame for the Troubles. You explain how Nationalists were at first reluctant and then intolerant to the 6 counties and unionists. Not my fault you kept digging.Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-24902774071267109852017-03-20T22:55:12.949+00:002017-03-20T22:55:12.949+00:00Christy Walsh
Not once have you quoted me correct...Christy Walsh<br /><br />Not once have you quoted me correctly. Carry on there regardless lollarry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-77665689263286121892017-03-20T20:45:25.216+00:002017-03-20T20:45:25.216+00:00Really? Initial Nationalist reluctance consolidat...Really? Initial Nationalist reluctance consolidated unionist supremacy(diktat) and then post 69 that reluctance escalated into 30 years of intolerance of unionist supremacy (diktat)?Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-10157132801824655182017-03-20T11:12:49.067+00:002017-03-20T11:12:49.067+00:00Christy Walsh
I would say a reluctance initially ...Christy Walsh<br /><br />I would say a reluctance initially by nationalists to accept partition consolidated the 6 county unionist diktat. Intolerance on both sides after 69 gave us 30 years of troubles. As for the Muslims, things have gotten extremely ugly since my time in Sligo over a decade ago. My attitude to them is as there's is to me in their countries, when in Rome... or get the fuck larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-80321526651710142532017-03-19T19:00:25.177+00:002017-03-19T19:00:25.177+00:00Larry
Unfortunately you appear to blame nationalis...Larry<br />Unfortunately you appear to blame nationalists in equal measure with unionist supremacy: "Lack of tolerance and aggression on both sides gave us the 'troubles' in the 6 counties."<br /><br />As for the Somalis we can often realize after the event that we failed to act at the time to something that was potentially more sinister or not mere banter. In terms of Islam Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-40968897972007912712017-03-19T16:41:20.366+00:002017-03-19T16:41:20.366+00:00Christy Walsh
I didn't say anything about nat...Christy Walsh<br /><br />I didn't say anything about nationalist intolerance was at the root of the troubles. However given that the Free State agreed to bin the Boundary Commission in exchange for the bye ball on annuities to the Crown and the nationalist minority boycott of the 6 county state nationalists were hardly helping themselves given where SF and are today in regard to Stormont. As larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-41270506921299969272017-03-19T15:03:38.579+00:002017-03-19T15:03:38.579+00:00Larry
I would agree that wherever Muslims are in ...Larry<br /><br />I would agree that wherever Muslims are in a majority they are not known for their tolerance or defense for equality.<br /><br />I would challenge your assertion that a lack of Nationalist tolerance to Unionist supremacy and discrimination was at the root of the Troubles. I suppose holding the oppressed as being equally to blame is one way to reduce centuries of British Christy Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07529990561635818286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-85227233172184707632017-03-19T14:58:05.935+00:002017-03-19T14:58:05.935+00:00The issue is never the issue. The issue is always ...The issue is never the issue. The issue is always revolution. When owner-producer dyanmics didnt create the neccessary tension when translated to America (as Alinskey saw himself),it became oppressor-oppressed, and race became the main vehicle for agitation. Its why when discussing Islam they need to conflate it with race (because anti religion is a good thing), and why racism dynamics are DaithiDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03154264514142897745noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4807238897188927967.post-33195419915150035162017-03-19T09:04:57.555+00:002017-03-19T09:04:57.555+00:00Women's treatment in Islamic countries seems p...Women's treatment in Islamic countries seems pretty rough. The intolerance is the frightening thing about the Muslim societies. That is the perception anyway. Different nationalities/cultures congregate together in communities wherever they go. That's why there are China Towns in most cities and Irish and black areas in cities across America for example and also in the UK. They always larry hugheshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09837849309156970989noreply@blogger.com