Sunday, September 30, 2018

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Facebook Banning A Morning Thought

Anthony McIntyre objects to his daily A Morning Thought being banned on Facebook this morning. He reposted it with the following comment. It is still up. 





Facebook Idiots banned A Morning Thought today probably on the grounds of it being blasphemous - it was a meme challenging the child rape culture within the Roman Catholic Church ... here it is again. Make up your own mind before they ban it again. Why does Facebook protect priestly paedophilia from ridicule and mockery?



Anthony McIntyre blogs @ The Pensive Quill.
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51 comments :

DaithiD said...

Was it specifically your post that was banned AM? Did you get a message to explain it? What kind of timeframe between posting and removal have they refined the process to?

I’ve heard of a great viel of censorship being brought down on twitter, YouTube and Facebook, first demonetising channels then outright removals. Let’s see all those outrage merchants stand over the Frankenstein of their creation, it was never going to be restricted to just those they claimed were Nazi’s.It won’t end at memes like this.

AM said...

DaithiD,

yes. Just the meme and the heading A Morning Thought.
I noticed it about an hour later when they sent me a message saying it had been banned under their community programme.
I immediately reposted the meme along with the above comment.
It is still there.
Perhaps somebody full of religious wank reported it.


DaithiD said...

AM, probably someone who wore a “Je suis Charlie” badge too. Highlighting this censorship creep is vital.

AM said...

The bearer of the Je suis Charlie badge would probably be banned for offending religious sentiment

Chris McDermott said...

Perhaps because it contains two clearly identifiable individuals?

AM said...

Perhaps but as they don't explain anything we can never tell. And so often they supress in situations where that type of defence cannot be proffered.

AM said...

They blocked it again and have suspended me for 24 hours, with the threat of a permanent ban!

DaithiD said...

First they came for the Nazi's....

AM said...

well this is the problem DaithiD when you start banning expression you don't like ... no platform is a very dangerous concept

DaithiD said...

AM, Social media will come to be seen, definitively, as more a curse than an opportunity.

Sure kids can ping pictures of their genitals around the globe more easily, but content most put out will yield only negative things e.g. missed career opportunities when long past indiscretions are found, the profiling and neutralising of any budding Tom Barry type revolutionaries , on top of the growing encroachment of the current break down in civility in dealing with others.

Ignoring all other contributing factors, I don’t think a movement like the Provos would ever have enough time or privacy to grow, in the social media age.

Niall said...

Not unexpected though...if had been about Muslims it would have been acceptable!

Henry JoY said...

Absolutely Dáithí & AM,

if we were to meet and greet our inner Nazi then perhaps we might learn to train or restrain him?

If we don't ... then what?

DaithiD said...

HJ, I have no inner Nazi, if the label is to have any descriptive meaning at all. Perhaps an inner/‘closer to outer’ authoritarian streak especially as I get older.

I saw a clip today of a male feminist kicking a pro life female at some protest in America , perhaps the old left/right paradigm is too amorphous to elicit clarity.

DaithiD said...

This is progressive in 2018: https://mobile.twitter.com/stillgray/status/1047429839924342784/video/1

Anonymous said...

saw that too Daithi. this isnt left v right. this is brainwashed victims of a toxic media/entertainment/academic system vs reality. this is what happens when u let trannies into kindergartens to read stories to kids. things are changing thank God. hope u watch this, this is very significant and is surely a sign of the beginning of the end of the cultural marxist tyranny in our universities. its hilariously funny and pathetically sad all at once -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=130&v=kVk9a5Jcd1k


now look at some of the comments here about what happened to the young lady above. this is what we are up against - brainwashed dehumanized and degraded victims of an insane culture, much like the hysterical witches wailing in dubln castle here a few months ago.

https://www.kanyetothe.com/forum/index.php?topic=8099465.0

AM said...

My comment on Facebook this morning:

Facebook Idiots recently banned A Morning Thought item. It was reposted and I was suspended for a day. The post was again removed by Facebook Idiots. The ban was most likely a response to somebody complaining because their religious whackery was offended and did not want anything that would flag up priestly paedophilia. People who object to what offends them are not obligated to view. Do not read them but do desist from censoring. If anyone wants a copy of the particular A Morning Thought item, you can PM me. If you wish you can then post it on you wall. People will see it, defeating the purpose of Facebook Idiots. They in turn might get a complaint from the religious whackos and remove it. By then the point will have been made and you no longer need to persist. Somebody else will take it up. The overall purpose is that Facebook Idiots and Religious Whackos should be made to play wackamole if they wish to persist in censorship.

Anonymous said...

Anthony - i brought all this to light during the referendum - but it didn't seem to bother anyone back then when the entire Internet came down on the pro-life side. also - you keep going on about priestly pedophilia when in fact the vast majority of assaults carried out by priests are carried out on POST pubescent males and young men - this is not paedophilia but predatory homosexual behaviour. but the libtarded media, both mainstream and a lot of so called 'alternative' sites will not dare mention this - why? why is the word paedophilia being used for predatory homosexual behaviour. personally, the morning thought stuff doesnt bother me one bit, but what is annoying is your constant use of words like stupid, idiots and whacko to describe people who hold different beliefs to you. well, some of us might be all those things but we do have the intelligence to know the difference between a paedophile and a predatory homosexual. do you?

AM said...

It seems every time the religious cranks try to suppress something the more it gets viewed. Anything about the men of god raping the kids is not going to be easy to cover up.

AM said...

I guess it would have got minimal interest but for the unicorn believers seeking it banned.

AM said...

Hello folks - do you have a minute to discuss the fairies at the bottom of my garden?

DaithiD said...

You up watching the UFC AM? Fairies about as common as non reactionary Muslims it seems.

AM said...

Couldn't sleep DaithiD - wasn't watching it but the son is watching it now. I lost what very little interest in him due to the overwhelming sense of egomania that he exudes. Perhaps you will do an article on it for TPQ. Better to read one of those religious nutter books about the magic of creation than watch those events!

There are huge amounts of non reactionary Muslims but no fairies. Don't let your bigotry reduce you to the level of the regressive left which sees fascists in anything that opposes them. Plenty of Muslims couldn't give a toss; no different from the many Catholics who voted for Repeal the 8th despite what the wanker clerics threatened them with.

DaithiD said...

AM, for a brief period Ireland has had the worlds biggest sports star. When i was kid, we imagined ourselves as Bruce Lee in the playground, I bet most kids now would think of Conor. It’s just a shame that Khabib could walk around Dublin tomorrow relatively safe, but Conor would be killed in Dagestan. But then after reading that Sean Connolly article maybe it’s not too hard to understand why, priorities are elsewhere. They are always elsewhere, directed against the best among us.

AM said...

DaithiD,

I doubt very much Conor McGregor was ever the world's biggest sports star. Talented, able, watchable - but nowhere near the colossal sports size of Messi or Djokovic. The sport he is in reminds me a bit of Ulster Scotch when judged against other things in the genre. Conor might be killed in Dagestan but not every Muslim would seek to kill him, not even a majority of them. Those poisoned by religious hatred might. But then they kill other Muslims too. I would not fancy Khabib's chances of survival in the morning if he was in a Dublin bar packed with Conor fans.

I would hate to think McGregor is the best among us. Extreme vanity, ego, wealth that he has no need of but others need very much - they are not the things I value as being the best we have to offer.

That said, an article on your reflections about the fight, the sport, the culture would be a useful one to have on TQPQ.

Anonymous said...

"Hello folks - do you have a minute to discuss the fairies at the bottom of my garden?"

ive all the time in the world but it appears u dont want to discuss the fairy mafia Anthony. why does it take u a week to put up my comments. is this censorship!!!!!!!

Unknown said...

Good it was banned not all catholic priests are childmolesters why didnt he put something up about the muslim grooming gangs over three thousand girls raped past about from son to father why didn't he post that i tell you why because he knows he lose everything the cowardly rat.. but he thought it was funny to put that filth up a very funny man if you are going after the catholics why not jews muslims. typical left wing tramp says nothing about muslims or other faiths but goes after catholics. us catholic knows the church needs to get rid of those priests but when a man joins the priest hood he doesn't say by the way am into molesting children it happens in all faiths and cultures in families too. it's not in catholic teaching to abuse children but it is in islam.And everyone getting upset on here about it being removed but will not say anything islam

Barry Gilheany said...

Unknown

True investigative journalists and informed commentators go after ALL examples of abuse of women, children, LTGB ETC perpetrated in the name of patriarchal mores be it Christian clergy, grooming gangs of South Asian heritage, the Saudi and Iranian regimes and Donald Trump's Supreme Court nominee. I would be interested in know how you reference your case that Islam legitimises the abuse of children but Catholic teaching does not.

Anonymous said...

Barry gilheany - there is a very significant omission in your list of abuse victims.

AM said...

Barry,

my own approach is to ignore rants and particularly from those who seem to lack the courage of their convictions and hide behind pen names to hurl invective. We allow them om here but ultimately invisible people have invisible rights.

Anonymous said...

Anthony, are u referring to henryjoy calling me a -

cunt
nazi
fascist

Anonymous said...

come on, admit it Anthony, ur censoring me on an anti-censorship page.

DaithiD said...

Barry, Aisha narrates the founder of Islam married her as a six year old and consummated the marriage when she was nine. Anything Mohamed’s did is used to benchmark Islamic morality. Western norms see nine year olds a children. I think Western norms are superior in this respect, but you needn’t ask in a comment section for scriptural guidance. Islam sees no shame in things like this, you can find all the sources online for free, or go to you local mosque and ask for copies of the Quaran/Sira/hadiths. But from what I’ve seen you are quite happy in your ignorance on this subject , much better to think of oneself bravely battling bigots like Unknown (or myself). My option would take effort.

AM said...

DaithiD - the bible allowed genocide and mass murder of children. You did not want to face this yourself and avoided addressing it at every opportunity. Admittedly you were thinking about the significance of it. And we all have contradictory positions otherwise we would be perfect and then we would begin trying to force others to be perfect by eradicating blemish.

All these texts, Bibles and Korans, are bollix and there is little to be gained by thinking our bollix is less bollix than their bollix. Millions of Muslims will not be with 9 year old girls just as millions of Christians will not slaughter the first born.

Western norms that protect nine year olds are better than any norm that does not. But we should not pretend that we practice what we preach in the West. Islam is a detrimental to human progress but so are the other major religions.


frankie said...

Unknown,

Whats your take on Cock Sucking Jews?

Anonymous said...

daithi, im here to back you up, but alas, the willie frazer of irish atheism doesnt want an intelligent debate. the same man who rages against infanticide in the bible but yet campaigns for the destruction of the present day innocents in their millions. the same man who rages against the censoring of his toxic juvenile cartoons but yet censors any meaningful debate on his own anti-censorship page. only in ireland.

Barry Gilheany said...

Daithi D

What contemporary Islam is deficient is adequate scholarship on the Koran, the hadiths and the relationships in order to counter the cultural imperialism of Salafi/Wahhabi interpretations of Islam which Saudi Arabia has exported around the world.

In this regard, I recommend "The House of Islam. A Global History" by former Islamist Ed Husain.

DaithiD said...

AM, yes I remember you posing the question in that ‘sealioning’ style you often adopt whenever Islam is under attack.

AM said...

DaithiD - what was being challenged and what you failed to meet was your own bigotry rather than Islam. It was a very simple question that you had difficulty with and then went to a priest for guidance. WTF would a priest know about moral guidance? You could have just answered why the bible genocide was morally superior to the Koran.

Islam needs seriously challenged but by relentless and remorseless reason, not bigotry nor by running into the corner whining when your bigotry is pointed out.

DaithiD said...

AM, you must of read the Israeli advocates handbook for propaganda, reframing debates beyond their original terms. A question was posed about Islamic justification of child rape, I gave one example. Another could of been the dividing of spoils during times of war, the fate that befell the Yazidi children (ever wonder why we are constantly told the West is at war with Islam from that quarter?)
Of course not every Muslim took war spoils. Just as not every British soldier executed Irishmen. Just as not every Nazi funnelled Jews into gas chambers either, but there are different elements to genocidal structures, and all are key.I dont envy you having to pick through these difficulties, but at least its coming to the right season for you to start wearing your pussy hat again. Some small consolation perhaps.

DaithiD said...

Barry, again, the supposed interpretation differences are exaggerated by skilful propagandists who rely on the basic ignorance and goodwill of their audience (people like you).

You know an author Ed Hussain, well I know a better one, Mohammed. There is no interpretation of the text where Mohammed was not a sex slave keeping warlord, who directed the murder of hundreds of people. If it takes a scholar to understand the texts, which is directly refuted in the Koran, then how many of the claimed 1.5bn Muslims do you think are learned enough to warrant the label? Honest question, how many Muslims are true according to your understanding?

AM said...

DaithiD - which sort of confirms that you rather than I have read the Israeli handbook of propaganda and for that reason ducked and dived when a question exposed the core fallacy of the position being defended.

Your inability to answer the question - and such a simple question it was - confirmed that religious texts justifying or endorsing horrible things like rape and genocide did not bother you in the slightest: just the Muslim ones. Which led to me forming an opinion that you are a bigot. Perhaps it was not my sealioning but my ability to see lying that upset your sensitivities.

"There are different elements to genocidal structures" - indeed there are but odd that you failed to see that in the biblical element and have focussed exclusively on the Islamic element. What reason other than anti Islam bigotry explains such inconsistency? And if you knew a little more than just the term "genocidal structures" and a bit about Israeli attempts to energise and sustain the Holocaust industry, you would understand that Daniel Goldhagen tried to rely on the argument about elements of genocidal structures to implicate the entire German people in an eliminationist plot. Like yourself, a bigot, his argument was destroyed by, of all people, Jewish intellectuals.

I imagine I can stand over wearing my pussy hat in a much more open and honest manner than you can stand over wearing your glory suit.

AM said...

DaithiD,

that is right what you said to Barry about Mohammed. But if the texts are what condemn all Muslims to being supporters of child rape how come the texts from the Christian bible do not condemn all Christians as supporters of child murder? The Big Fucker murders merrily throughout the bible, yet it seems ok to worship the bollix.

DaithiD said...

AM, just to be clear, the nuance in your question to me was not about whether the OT justified barbarity, it was given that such barbarity occurred, would I condemn it.

It was a perspective I had never considered, as it’s arguable whether such material is an instruction (as it is in Islam).

The opportunity to condemn the actions of God , leaving aside whether they are directives, did unlock a door behind which lay great difficulty to reconcile a coherent position. Ultimately I only go to Church at Christmas now, or to hear the choir , or to sit in a grand building and reflect.

I would be interested to know the effect that formulation of the question has had in others of faith, it’s devilishly structured!

AM said...

DaithiD - for your argument to have any consistency you should have condemned biblical genocide outright. Once the big fella mass murdered children, his followers could always claim to be treading in his footsteps. Islam the practice and the power structure is what matters more than the texts. Society has emasculated the Catholic Church. What bollix the bible promotes has little impact. Ultimately, Islam, like Catholicism, needs tackled on the grid of power not in the pages of text.

The question was common sense - not much devilish about it. Islam is a horrible religion in my view and should be opposed by reason (the antithesis of faith) not bigotry - just another form of faith.

DaithiD said...

AM, I should of condemned it, and do now. However,with irrational positions, such as matters of faith ,there is always an element of personal identity invested within them. I didn’t want to give you a victory at that time, when I had reconciled myself to it afterwards I did try and acknowledge your superior position publicly on here.

AM said...

DaithiD - that is true but even after you have seen through the irrational, you still make broad generalisations about Muslims based on text. The blog is not a vanity project - we win and we lose the point all the time. Making points is important whereas scoring them is of little value to discussion.

Nor is it a matter of superior positions winning out. I think my own was the more consistent position. You allowed a biased and bigoted view to get in the way of your own reasoning. All groups have characteristics and cultures shared to some extent or other by the individuals within it. The degree to which they share is what is important, not that they belong to some group. Is Islam more strong in terms of how it interpellates than say Christianity? I think the case can be made that it is but it is much more difficult to argue that it is so because of the text.

Unknown said...

Found your post on Facebook personally offensive as a practicing Catholic. Would I ban it, no, but i would like it to be access only by adults because of the content.

Steve R said...

A large part of it is growing up in a (even nominally) Christian environment.

I'm not sure how you lot went growing up Catholic but being a Prod we had a vastly censored version of 'God'. An all-loving diety but with menace constantly in it's wake.

We have had a few Jihadis down here. Predictable story. Repressed, disenfranchised and marginalized youth from peaceful Muslim families get very angry as young men do at the world, thus becoming easily manipulated through an interpretation of a religious text that's very extreme. Not so long ago Christianity used the same methods to recruit young men also.

And in the capricious stakes few could hold a candle to Christian 'God'.

DaithiD said...

AM,

“...Islam the practice and the power structure is what matters more than the texts...”

this is a hierarchy of your design , for your convenience. Islam places huge emphasis on the claim the first Koran ever written is , and will always be, the same as Korans that come after. There is no central body like the Vatican within Islam because the text is there for all to obey. You will miss the nuance if you can only grasp the elements of Islam that appear to resemble Catholicism.

You think it’s incomplete/bigoted to only condemn Islamic sanctioned child abuse when asked specifically about it, but if for example, we did a random search and selection on this site of articles dealing with Catholic abuse scandals that you have written, what percentage would we find you balancing the critique by raising the spectre of equivalent bestiality within Islam too? I would guess between 0-1%.

Steve R said...

Unknown,

You should be more fucking offended by the painful truth said in jest!

AM said...

DaithiD - or a vista that inconveniences you in your comfort zone.

Does Christianity not do the same - where has Christianity told us that the bible is not the inerrant word of god and that we should therefore ignore it?

That there is no central body like the Vatican in Islam would indicate that there is even more freedom for Muslims to be unfaithful to the text or interpret it in their own way. There is no centripetal force pulling everyone to the text.

I don't think it is bigoted to only condemn Islamic child abuse when confronted with it. I think it is right to do so. I think it is bigoted to blame it on the text and then label all Muslims in some undifferentiated form: all the while failing to confront the genocidal text of your own religion.

How can you, a Catholic, free yourself of the genocidal text, but Muslims cannot?