Bad Days and Worse

To be an unbeliever is not to be merely “open-minded”. It is to be, rather, a decisive admission of uncertainty that is dialectically connected to the repudiation of the totalitarian principle, in the mind as well as in politics – Christopher Hitchens.

The polemicist Christopher Hitchens is dying. He announced as much during a discussion with Jeffrey Goldberg, the Atlantic National Correspondent. The exchange between the two men, at one point joined by the writer Martin Amis, was simply billed as ‘A Conversation With Christopher Hitchens.’ It covered much more ground than that of the illness gripping the author of God Is Not Great and numerous other books but his outlook, intensely focussed as it is on his mortality, was what I found of primary interest. The rest we have sort of heard before.

While Hitchens' political perspective over the past decade has been a persistent source of irritation to me I have long admired the power of his mind. Never content to be told by someone ‘read our paper, nothing else, and you will have the right politics’, I always found the arguments presented by Hitchens engaging and forceful although not persuasive. My wife bought me his memoir Hitch-22 as a birthday present which his accelerated dying process, as he put it, will accelerate the speed with which I get around to reading it. A bit of bookish queue jumping is excusable under the circumstances.

The cancer that began in his oesophagus has spread to his lymph nodes. It isn’t good. Having undergone chemotherapy Hitchens is showing the physical signs and seems to have succumbed to the notion that his cancer is much too virulent for the treatment. He wants to live so took his chances with a trying and tiring treatment in the knowledge that chemo not miracles can cure potentially fatal illnesses.

This was what the discussion with Goldberg was really about – facing death without any belief in god or an afterlife. That Atlantic featured it at all is an indication of how what happens to us upon death still grips people. There is no widespread easy acceptance of the fact that death is what happens. All individual life ends with it and proceeds no further. The Mark Twain view that he had been dead for millions of years before he was born and found nothing wrong with it is not one that reassures many.

Hitchens describes his dying as being made up of bad days and worse days. An apt way to put it, given that for the vast majority of us, the final furlong to the final fence where by necessity we must fall rather than jump, is not something to which we joyously gallop. There is a preference to tighten the reins and slow down to a jog trot. If the other guy wants to shoulder us aside in order up get up the queue a place or two don’t interfere with him. Be considerate to his needs and ask him to invite his friends.

Hitchens remains able to read and write so he is able to regale us with his take on many of the issues hovering over our times. Describing himself as a realist he thinks he will be a lucky person to live another five years. He does not find it insulting for people to pray for his recovery but would be angered if they were praying for him not to recover but to be ‘saved’. It would be a warped type of mind that would happily see him dead but ‘saved’.

When asked would terminal illness ever prompt him to state that he had been ‘saved’, or washed in the blood of the lamb as the pompously pious might put it, he was clear. Wittily quoting Jeeves to Bertie Wooster he said ‘the contingency is a remote one’. There were, he explained, circumstances that are conceivable where a patient, whose cancer had spread to the brain inducing terror and raving, might make such a ‘ridiculous remark’. He drew attention to the existence of an old game played by religion where its adherents would spread falsifications that people had on their death bed abandoned their deeply held scepticism and embraced what they had never believed. As examples he highlighted the cases of Voltaire, Thomas Paine, David Hume and Charles Darwin. In his case he was confident that such a fabrication would not be believed by any who know him.

I have little doubt that there are those who will respond to news of Hitchen’s illness with perverse religious glee, seeing in it some sort of heavenly retribution because he refused to believe what they believed. It will reinforce their belief that their god is a good god and the proof of it lies in their holy god having fired a cancer volley into the unholy body of the unbeliever; just as he has in the past sent tsunamis and hurricanes to regions of the world as a blow against gays.

The ‘dearest friend’ of the Hitch, Martin Amis, interjected to argue that it is irrational and premature to state there is no god given that we know nothing about how 86 % of the universe is made up and very little about galaxy formation. The only rational position to hold is that of an agnostic ‘teetering on the very brink of atheism.’

Hitchens was not overtly hostile to this idea, claiming that on the subject of god’s existence he is certain he knows as much as - maybe more than - the pope knows about it. For him religion is man made and all the gods found so far have been man made. If there is a higher intelligence no one yet has found any proof of its existence and none can claim to act in the name of a higher power or tell us, either with or without infallibility, that they know something about god’s existence because of divine revelation that the rest of us don’t

It was a lucid and dignified performance by a man many of whose critics want to see him near the end screaming repentance and begging forgiveness so that their own lingering doubts can be assuaged.


52 comments:

  1. A testimony to the strength of his stoic convictions, under his libertine persona. I trust he can endure the attacks of his naysayers with continued dignity. May he live in good grace as his end nears.

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  2. I was sad to hear of Hitchens' possibly terminal illness. Even though I disagreed with his support of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, I always found his writings entertaining and provocative. I wish him well.

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  3. Mackers, I agree with Alfie in relation to Hitchens.
    I would just like to ask however, why all these anti-God squad people seemingly sound almost as over zealous in their denial of God as the God squad do in their belief?
    At times, each side seems as equally driven in executing their beliefs or lack of them as the other!

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  4. Nuala I,m most of the way through Dawkins book,The God Delusion, I,ll gladly lend you it if you wish.after a week away reading and contemplating,I,m as content in my head re my atheism, and can face that final furlong that Anthony writes so well about,safe in the knowledge that I,ll not have any truck with any religious mumbo jumbo,its a good feeling, and one I hope Christopher Hitchens shares

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  5. Sorry AM gonna have to strongly disagree with you on this one. "the power of his mind"? this blowhard was among the staunchest advocates of the disastrous Iraq war. A war that has left hundreds of thousands dead, many more injured, a strengthened Iran and has bankrupted the US. Any idiot with a basic understanding of history could have seen this coming. Yet he still continues to defend it. I wish him luck with his cancer battle but I don't think he's very brilliant at all.

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  6. I do not wish to get on to Hitchen's, but why is it these day a certain type of writer seems to wish to write so publicly about their own illness and approaching death. Is this a symptom of the me, me, world we in the west live in, or does it have some value?

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  7. Nuala,

    I think it varies across the range. Some at any rate dislike the notion of having to cough up the taxes to cover the cost of having the pope visit. Many others resent the control that clerics try to exercise in society without any authority for doing so. Many resile form the notion of a god exisiting alongside a church which covers up endemic child abuse Others just like to wind up.

    Marty, read it a few years ago. While I enjoyed it I thought it could have been better. It was the last book my mother had read to her before she died.

    Ryan, no problem with disagreeing. I feel that people who hold positions contrary to my own can have brilliant minds.

    Mick,

    I thought at the time we lost something when Freddie Mercury died but went very quietly. It is a matter for him but I admire the thought of people sharing with us. I think the opposite case can be made - those who don't share their dying with the rest may be displaying the 'me' syndrome. I don't subscribe to any one view of it. I just have the view there is no right or wrong way, just what you do. I recall borrowing that from a psychiatrist who wrote about the death of Nuala O Faolain.

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  8. Mackers, I certainly do not want to pay for the pope's visit, however, I honestly fail to see what that has to do with God.

    Why are people like Dawkins so hell bent (no pun intended) in disproving the existence of God?
    Why can he just not let the Catholics, Jews, Muslims get on with it?

    His documentary did show a lot of the nonsense that spills from the font of organized religion. However, he seemed to root out zealots and fundamentalists rather than just address peoples belief in God.

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  9. Anthony,been mulling over what Mick said and ya know he may be right (as usual) ya know about people and the me,me,me, symptom, take yer man jesus,now he wasnt the only person ever crucified,yet this me, me lark and look where we all ended up,mmmm lot to be said about falling of the old perch quietly.!

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  10. Nuala,

    I think people use god to elevate their authority and status. Priests are quoted about community issues in the way that the captain in a local football club is not. If the concept of god was non existent where would these people be? Liam O Ruairc once commented to me that if the pope discovered there was no god he would most definitely not tell the rest of us.

    Dawkins thinks it is important for the god idea to be dispelled because he thinks it causes harm. So, if you think something is harmful you may find it worthwhile to campaign against it.

    I take the view that religion is just an opinion. If people want to hold that opinion fine as long as they do not try to bring it into my life.

    There are some people who go over the top in whatever they do.

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  11. Marty,

    I think the lack of oxygen at high altitude has muddled the old mind. Can I recommend 'The Dawkins Delusion' by Alister and Joanna McGrath amongst other critical responses to your 'Dawkins Bible'.

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  12. Robert,

    The Dawkins Delusion is a woeful book. John Lennox is a much better adversary and I look forward to acquiring his book. Thanks for the tip

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  13. Anthony while I agree with you that religion is just an opinion,but unfortunatley it doesnt stop there almost daily we have clergy and religious spokespersons either in the press or on tv on the streets or at the door in the schools,hospitals, f##k even in hotels they leave their propaganda, Dawkins is right I believe when he said that Atheism is punching away below its weight, the sooner we dispell the myth of a god ,yahweh, or whatever name one chooses then mankind can surley come to peace with him/her self,granted other reasons exist for conflict,but when we hear the likes of Bush telling the world that god told him to invade Iraq and the resulting msasive amount of deaths,maybe its away past time we all moved into the 21st century and put these myths with the fairies at the blottom of the garden.and while there is people who believe in them ,we dont have them playing a major role in our lives.

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  14. Anthony,

    Good to learn that you had viewed the Lennox - Dawkins debate. Perhaps you have now viewed it in it's entirety? Your appraisal was fair enough as far as the opening position statements were concerned however it was the mid to end portion of the debate which I wanted you to see. The loss of composure, the fumbling with the timer and the protest regarding the hitherto agreed format.

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  15. Robert while oxygen levels may surely be lower at those high altitude,the air is cleaner and smog free,therefore while I appreciate your concern for my "spiritual wellbeing", I came to my conclusions many years ago, Dawkins and other just express it so more elequently,could take you up there sometime a cara the mountains that is, with the dust outa your eyes you may just see that light,its called the truth,anyway I,m away to listen and watch the European Pipe band championships on tv,oiche go maith

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  16. Anthony,

    "Each man's death diminishes me,
    For I am involved in mankind.
    Therefore, send not to know
    For whom the bell tolls,
    It tolls for thee" John Donne.

    I do not think any true believer will derive any religious glee from Hitchens demise. What you're anticipating here is ,I think, often a response to the derogatory terms in which Hitchens, Dawkins et al often treat Christians and their beliefs.

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  17. Mick,

    "I do not wish to get on to Hitchen's, but why is it these day a certain type of writer seems to wish to write so publicly about their own illness and approaching death."

    Perhaps now entering 'the valley of the shadow of death' Hitchens requires assurance that his destination really is ‘the sure extinction that we travel to.’

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  18. religion was the cause of many wars
    or an excuse for them,
    but most wars had several other motives- our own- most people think it was about religion and equality in the agreement is about
    religion, our own was a brit IRISH
    conflict,

    marty-
    jesus was not the only one crucified, but he was the only one that arose after the event,
    again this is believe.

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  19. Aye even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,I shall fear no evil, Why? because I,m the biggest bas###d in the valley! Mickeyboy tell me how you KNOW Christ died and arose again, have you been at those mushrooms again!

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  20. Marty

    Jesus is the only dissident that Michael approves of.

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  21. Could be your spot on there Tain Bo a cara, like the bearded one Jesus was/is depicted with a face full of hair,and also like the great bearded one Jesus was never in the ra either!

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  22. marty-

    only mushroom soup, does that count
    jesus, the god our lord,
    again its believe, i have no proof,
    but like your believe that there is no god, you cant show me any proof either.

    tain bo-

    jesus is a dissident
    are you saying that jesus is REAL.

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  23. Mickeyboy watch that big girl of yours a cara I think she may be listening to Freddie Mecury,s I want to break free,or joing Marie and the Armagh ramblers on their nationwide trips, I mean is that mushroom soup coming out of a tin?no use asking Nuala,s Albert to test it,that man is immune to cyanide,like god I dont believe in fairies at the bottom of my garden so I dont feel the onus is on me to prove anything,I regard myself as a blank canvass,waiting on those like yourself who believe in such things to come up with some proof,

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  24. Michael

    Very late breaking news: dissident leader arrested in the gardens at Gethsemane.
    Jesus was charged with blasphemy and sedition as there was no separation of church and state.
    This would keep both the Roman and Jewish elite happy as the Romans could care less about blasphemy. Their interest would be in sedition as crucifixion was generally handed out for two categories of crimes against Rome- political rebels (dissidents) and slaves who continually refused to obey their owners. Jesus was not a slave so the focus would be upon the sedition and his crucifixion would be political.

    “Jesus is a dissident are you saying that Jesus is REAL.”

    I hope you do not drink Coca Cola as it’s the “REAL” thing?

    Fair play to you Michael knock about in here long enough you might actually take a mental leap of faith and leave the cave.

    Greetings Robert

    Had to take advantage of the bold Michaels post and expand on your trigger word theory I think you can safely stamp it as fact.

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  25. Marty,

    I like the falling off the perch quietly line.

    Take your point about dispelling the myth of Yahweh and any of the rest of them who have god status. But I simply haven't the interest in preaching against the preachers. And the idea of repressing them for their opinion is anathema.

    ‘the sure extinction that we travel to.’

    Where else Robert, where else?

    The true believer who truly believes gays are an abomination, Africans should not get condoms, god sends tsunamis to punish the world for sexual promiscuity - that sort don't you think?

    I did watch it all. Thought Dawkins allowed himself to get rattled due to the sophistry of Lennox. Lennox is a much better debater and baiter. Dawkins finished strong. Thought the format was appalling but Lennox cannot be blamed for that. Was very interested in what Lennox had to say but encountered nothing that would make me change my view. Dawkins said nothing either that would strengthen it. Lennox would be a much more formidable advocate of deism if he avoided all the Jesus son of god stuff. That turns him into an apologist for Christianity rather than a defender of deism. Apparently Dawkins focussed in on this to the detriment of Lennox at a later debate in Oxford. I try to listen to these things with an open mind but the minute I hear Jesus the son talk it is an instant turn off. Must get the DVD because I did enjoy it. Want to write something about it at some point. Funny, as I write a member of the Orange Order has just sent me an e mail! His belief in Christianity is unshakeable but he is one of the best guys we could ever meet.

    Michaelhenry,

    'but like your belief that there is no god, you can't show me any proof either.'

    The problem here is as Dawkins says there is no proof that Thor or Zeus does not exist.

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  26. Yeah Anthony I have neither enough knowledge or inclination to preach against the preachers,having said that I,m glad there are people like Dawkins who are capable of confronting these peddlers of myths,when you mentioned that you must write something ,is that about the Dawkins /Lennox debate,hope so it would be an interesting read a cara,as for exist stage door left, I hope to live to be 95 and then get shot dead by a jealous lover,

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  27. Anthony,

    "Where else Robert, where else?"

    The New Jerusalem my friend - do not miss the bus!

    "I try to listen to these things with an open mind but the minute I hear Jesus the son talk it is an instant turn off."

    Anthony you oppose even the possibility of there being a God, in such circumstances any evidence can be rationalized or explained away. Does the name of Jesus turn you off or bother you greatly? What is it about atheists that they would spend so much time, attention, and energy refuting something that they don't believe even exists?
    You said previously,"I can see why people believe that something had to kick the thing off but that it intervenes in human affairs – can’t comprehend how that is seriously entertained as a belief."
    For the atheist like you this is often an incremental and slippery slope into belief. Had Anthony Flew, for instance, lived longer I believe he would have moved even further from his previous position. An admirable recantation all the same, unfortunately for him not enough. Incidently, the point you raise about death bed falsifications regarding Darwin, Voltaire etc. The same could be said of those who have attempted to limit the damage caused by Flew's volte face by suggesting it was the result of reduced mental faculties.

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  28. Anthony,

    "The true believer who truly believes gays are an abomination"

    I know a few homosexuals. Their lifestyle is a personal matter. Do they disgust me - no. Does the act of sodomy with another man disgust and unsettle me - beyond articulation. Do I wish harm upon them for that - no. Best sum up, Hate the sin ,love the sinner.

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  29. Well ya,ll not get me playing the tail end gunner,how perverse is that, why cant those people be satisfied with sheep shaggin like normal people, aint that right Mickeyboy!!

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  30. the hague convention was a happy married life with his wife
    now its his apparent converging over a toy boy, who knows who cares
    if you got your hands on the negatives of that scene marty would you sell them,
    share a sleep-over with a tory not a happy bed time story.

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  31. some religions say consented sex
    between two adualts is wrong
    me i think its a sin to go against
    what any couple want, if its a man
    and women, man and man, women and
    women as long as they are happy,
    anybody hear any faith leader say that there clergy would go to hell
    when they were found out doing sex crimes,
    for some in faith it is not the word of god they preach but fear
    this is not gods word its human talk.

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  32. MichaelHenry & Fionnuala,


    Great minds think alike!

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  33. Anthony,

    "Funny, as I write a member of the Orange Order has just sent me an e mail! His belief in Christianity is unshakeable but he is one of the best guys we could ever meet"

    Perhaps it is his unshakeable Christianity that makes him one of the best guys we could ever meet? Not the produce of evolution but the manifestation of a living and personal God.

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  34. Well my mate got six months for screwing a goat, and he got a futher six momths for acting the goat

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  35. Robert, not such a great mind yourself!
    You tied yourself in knots with the Klu Klux Klan and the Roman Catholicism/Catholic thing and you think you can score points with other people, wise up!

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  36. Robert,

    yes I belive he gets much of his decency from the fact that he is a Christian and shows a lot of warmth to his fellow human beings. He, like us all, is the product of evolution. And, for someone of my beliefs here is no living and personal God.

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  37. You on those mushrooms as well Anthony or just full of Hail fellow well meet!

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  38. Marty,

    he has called this one right

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  39. Robert


    ‘ Does the act of sodomy with another man disgust and unsettle me - beyond articulation.’

    In that respect you have as much right to be disgusted by them as they have to be disgusted by you for having sex with a woman.

    I have no time for the disgust displayed by either of you.

    ‘Hate the sin, love the sinner. ‘

    What sin? Their sex is no more sinful than yours.


    ‘you oppose even the possibility of there being a God, in such
    circumstances any evidence can be rationalized or explained away.’

    What evidence?


    ‘ Does the name of Jesus turn you off or bother you greatly?’

    No. Not the name. I say this facetiously but I bought my daughter a puppy yesterday. Had she called it Jesus would I have declined to use the name? Not in the slightest. It is the idea behind the concept. The son of god, risen from the dead, raised people from the dead, sent down to absolve us of our sins. All bunkum to me.

    ‘What is it about atheists that they would spend so much time, attention, and energy refuting something that they don't believe even exists?’

    It is the power relations spawned by the concept. Would the pope be so powerful if he announced there was no god? Atheists are a bit like justice campaigners who debunk the myth of justice where it does not exist. The Israeli treatment of the Palestinians if it is described as just will be tackled by those who believe justice in that context is a myth. Atheists debunk the myth of god because of what it gives rise to. Having said that I answer the question as you asked it – presumably neither of us think there is any average atheist and we both talk in short hand.

    ‘For the atheist like you this is often an incremental and slippery slope into belief. ‘


    Far from it. As Dawkins said to Lennox we were either created by a higher power or not. Only two answers. If it was not one it was the other. I never try to avoid slipping into belief. I no more think about becoming a believer that I do about becoming a Russian. I do expect to visit Russia someday but that will not be the slippery slope to giving up my European identity.

    I was wary of accepting suggestions that Flew had lost it. I know how too easily these allegations can be flung around. Then I saw him being interviewed. I immediately felt there was a man long past his best – through no fault of his own. Then Dawkins seemed to speak of him in terms more sorrowful than angry. So I don’t really know.

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  40. Anthony,

    "In that respect you have as much right to be disgusted by them as they have to be disgusted by you for having sex with a woman"

    The chance of that is becoming all too seldom!
    That disgust, where it arises, is in the very act to which they owe their existence.

    "What sin? Their sex is no more sinful than yours."

    You may not find what they do with their 'trouser furniture' sinful but their existence and persistence does create problems for your evolutionary ideas? According to Darwin, am I right in thinking that, at some stage homosexuality will cease to exist?

    "Would the pope be so powerful if he announced there was no god?"

    The Pope is so powerful because he effectively usurps God.

    " Then Dawkins seemed to speak of him in terms more sorrowful than angry."

    The same could probaly be said of Adams in attempting to minimise the damage caused by Brendan Hughes' critique.

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  41. Robert,

    'That disgust (at homosexuality) where it arises, is in the very act to which they owe
    their existence.'

    Not any more so than disgust at the use of a condom. The disgust you have towards their sex is a value judgement. So why do you devalue their sexual activity disgusting and value your own as not?


    'You may not find what they do with their 'trouser furniture' sinful but
    their existence and persistence does create problems for your
    evolutionary ideas? According to Darwin, am I right in thinking that,
    at some stage homosexuality will cease to exist?'

    Any more than the condom will case to exist or some other method of prevention?

    The question remains unanswered - why is their sex a sin and yours not?


    'The Pope is so powerful because he effectively usurps God.'

    To whatever extent there is truth in that would he be so powerful if he announced there was no god?

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  42. Anthony,

    "The disgust you have towards their sex is a value judgement. So why do you devalue their sexual activity disgusting and value your own as not?"

    Values aside,gay sex is inserting a reproductive organ into a digestive tract, which hardly seems to follow any natural or biological law.

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  43. Robert,

    apart from the natural, biological and existential law of pleasure. And in the context you create, no different from oral sex. Is that to be consigned to the dustbin marked 'disgusting' as well? How many 'straight' practioners of oral sex, I wonder, jump on the bandwagon to hammer gays for consensually placing it in a different orifice?

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  44. Anthony
    I just read this article.

    Hitchenses agree to disagree.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130526723&ft=1&f=1003

    Slan

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  45. Tain Bo,

    thanks for the link. Enjoyed the article. Think the argument on conscience from Peter is nonsense

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  46. Anthony
    I agree with the comment regarding conscience. I have been reading up on the atheist stance and so far finding the position more plausible.

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  47. Tain Bo,

    I found the Peter Hitchens position on conscience very unpersuasive.
    Halloween Wishes

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  48. Anthony

    I may well be wrong though it does sound more like advanced sibling rivalry. Peter comes across (and I might be translating this incorrectly) as a conservative old stiff upper lip sort.
    He sounds determined not to prove the existence of god but to disprove his brother’s stance against religion.

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  49. Anthony,

    Did you catch the recent Paxman interview?

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  50. Robert, I did and enjoyed it.

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